Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111158 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63596 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2020 17:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Jul 2020 17:51:01 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255A180555 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:45:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f180.google.com (mail-lj1-f180.google.com [209.85.208.180]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id s9so7039749ljm.11 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zbV329OEmxd7tT4bxgtEgGvVAWviZjeiNw+dVfEaXag=; b=ZHdaADAigMbQBRhi6FXgqXd5/1qsnlpH28TONKOKc24xRwt/8gzg+/SKY+MeEyuOX9 K/wh78BTKzIhL7IpuPiAa9agV2O67yfDoJN4KYPNIxUJea1eQoodgK+t3Zi+4nhJvIEd VDbn5Y08fTRA8wWWKRewRcDQVOdKiPao4BF+x1ZQpVVHFM89w+/VhM86MrB04wXT+luH RP8briTUUAjUrR3JnVMV8/nu72cemnIj6KeLuYiTdwV/3MsAkG3+FMpB75B9+wBsJE3f DNdjesKKVLKgMx07N5fe5Tb9cLj1eOAl1MkKMud/CfBfzmrtpuixJB+RPWYuulT7LfDb o/9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531xCXkngdRSaQGxbP3s8wL8B7u7Ket/WOTpkXmCxd6zBXWSEjpz 5Hvrfe+YcfebYw+4UljIZIpX50bEJlGEU8XQMnH0tg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyuxQXl+c+E9t3AYeCWoL5hDTOxGCrbFQ36yymeEg9Gfg7ZBy+3jSjl0KJmqOK8p10JG2vdO1sGP3Z3lkD/rRA= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:92d0:: with SMTP id k16mr2513822ljh.48.1595522742071; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:45:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5f192da8.1c69fb81.1600e.098eSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:45:31 -0500 Message-ID: To: Mark Randall Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000045ca8c05ab1e9638" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it? From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) --00000000000045ca8c05ab1e9638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 10:19 AM Sara Golemon wrote: > If that's the case, then the solution still seems obvious: Defer > attributes to 8.1. > > After some discussion off list, including Nikita (who is probably closer to this "problem" than any of the rest of us), I think the best way forward at the moment is to proceed with the voted on action: Merge attributes using @@ syntax prior to the feature freeze date. However, with my RM hat on, I need to feel like we're as sure as we can be about this syntax before it's public. I'm willing to extend an additional period (up to the tagging of beta3, in just under six weeks) for a re-vote on the syntax as changing that will be less violent of a change than merging the entire implementation after branching. I hope this solution is both procedurally appropriate and satisfactory to all. -Sara --00000000000045ca8c05ab1e9638--