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Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:46:46 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) X-Microsoft-Original-Message-ID: X-TMN: [xTR2px2/emITY3hn4QogXxx/5EGJ/DQGHCga+NXRPbgrqTCalFXcL1rGl5FhwQad] X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email X-IncomingHeaderCount: 49 X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 2c5e175e-02a9-4e8f-8047-08d82e4e0ee2 X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: HE1EUR01HT010: X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0; X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: Pz7U19XX6Hu7XtRCnAdnlgEYpNaWLzBMnpBEQkMLCBb8AVTHPitDgkY+OywdERH1xcgj5CemOfePrKNSciGUqMM4ZKGfnsxYfY58nXaSPtQEs8KzT7tIUCmSYKKfC0Cmp46bHtt1qyg+lws/ly6bYDsbJ0D/9SKwixm6/Lko1ihLj+8Vu0daH4WmyEaPnZXw0vm/3Tx5fAY1+3pGWpACTEI8sn3c4Bqp3t3e6AyWfmJslYxBLHcttVZIPInWe3sa X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:255.255.255.255;CTRY:;LANG:en;SCL:0;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:NSPM;H:VI1PR02MB4703.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com;PTR:;CAT:NONE;SFTY:;SFS:;DIR:OUT;SFP:1901; X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData: Y+1l6/M6DOBVoIylCDHZW/Bu2Ggxl0D9Fe14kjqMbBky2/GKnnfLblKzSbHjkxQm/CPJbEafA6oKbm6iA2U/BXkE5Yd5BoizXlFBC3LHGZoceSpmQ03mp4bGVwqgBFQtKyOEDpMzel/wpj0YtLaqgIWrHZe+LqN63LDK3jSqvV+8rsOjXymttLzMWXCi/oJFhfrpNU61Qp1zkwq/hSwUlw== X-OriginatorOrg: hotmail.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 2c5e175e-02a9-4e8f-8047-08d82e4e0ee2 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2020 14:46:47.0533 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: HE1EUR01FT008.eop-EUR01.prod.protection.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Anonymous X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1EUR01HT010 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][VOTE] debug_backtrace alternative as an array of StackFrame objects From: bobwei9@hotmail.com (Bob Weinand) > Am 22.07.2020 um 09:10 schrieb C=C3=B4me Chilliet : >=20 > Le Tue, 21 Jul 2020 13:52:39 +0200, > Micha=C5=82 Marcin Brzuchalski a =C3=A9cri= t : >> Voting opened 2020-07-21 and closes 2020-08-04. >>=20 >> Link to the RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/stack-frame-class#vote >=20 > Hello, >=20 > Can people voting no explain their vote? > I did not see that much discussion against this prior to vote. >=20 > (I=E2=80=99m not convinced this should pass either, just wondering what t= he > pro/cons are here) >=20 > C=C3=B4me Hey, I guess, the main objection, at least for me, is just introducing a new API= , just because it looks slightly nicer, but the actual benefit being very m= arginal. Bob=