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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:37:34 +0200
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To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it?
From: carusogabriel@php.net (Gabriel Caruso)

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 14:00, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I know we've voted twice on this already, but are we really sure that
> the @@ syntax is a good idea?
>
> - There are lots of grumbles, both on here, room 11, as well as in the
>   wider community (https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/hjpu79/it_is/)
> - It has the distinct possibility to cause further parsing issues, akin
>   to what ended up happening with what Nikita is addressing at
>   https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
> - There is no "end symbol" to make finding occurences easier.
> - It is a syntax *no other language* uses.
> - @ is never going to go away, so the possibility of @@ moving to @ is
>   also 0.
>
> Please, let's do the sensible and use the Rusty #[...] syntax.
>
> cheers,
> Derick
>
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Hello Derick.

I do understand your concerns, and I appreciate that you've reached out.

Although we are very close to the Feature Freeze date for PHP 8.0 (
https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80), I wouldn't mind opening an exception for
this specific case and let you (or someone), create an RFC proposing to
change the syntax of Attributes (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2),
and that only!

I'm copying PHP 8.0's Release Manager Sara, to hear her opinion on this as
well.

-- Gabriel Caruso

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