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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 14:46:48 +0200
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To: Deleu <deleugyn@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] The @@ is terrible, are we sure we're OK with it?
From: kontakt@beberlei.de (Benjamin Eberlei)

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On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:40 PM Deleu <deleugyn@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Terrible" is the amount of humans having their lives taken by a pandemic=
.
> This is at most slightly inconvenient for you. The aggressive tone in thi=
s
> discussion is extremely unnecessary.
>

After the RFC was voted on for @@, objectively "terrible" (or bad) reasons
for this patch have been found though, that can only be softened by
changing token parsing for namespaces.

This is not a subjective opinion.


> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:00 PM Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I know we've voted twice on this already, but are we really sure that
> > the @@ syntax is a good idea?
> >
> > - There are lots of grumbles, both on here, room 11, as well as in the
> >   wider community (https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/hjpu79/it_is/)
> > - It has the distinct possibility to cause further parsing issues, akin
> >   to what ended up happening with what Nikita is addressing at
> >   https://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaced_names_as_token
> > - There is no "end symbol" to make finding occurences easier.
> > - It is a syntax *no other language* uses.
> > - @ is never going to go away, so the possibility of @@ moving to @ is
> >   also 0.
> >
> > Please, let's do the sensible and use the Rusty #[...] syntax.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Derick
> >
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>

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