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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.0
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:14 AM Nicolas Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> It's that time of year again. Feature freeze is looming, so it's time to
>> talk about deprecations!
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_0
>>
>
> Thanks for the RFC.
> Would it make sense for you to postpone this for 8.1?
> I'm talking with my experience on Symfony here: we decided to give ppl
> some rest when they upgrade and always have our *.0 versions
> deprecations-free.
> Chasing BC breaks is a hard enough task for ppl to upgrade. Adding the
> additional step of solving deprecations is extra work that is not needed
> yet. I know solving deprecations is optional, but many teams have CI that
> fail on deprecations.
>
> I think it could be nicer to the userland community to have a smother path
> here, IMHO.
>
> Nicolas
>

I've retargeted this RFC to PHP 8.1 now. These deprecations are not
time-critical, there has been little discussion of the deprecations
themselves, and we're already in feature freeze induced RFC overload...

Nikita

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