Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:111068 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 35101 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2020 11:19:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2020 11:19:28 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6406B18050A for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,FREEMAIL_REPLY, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f182.google.com (mail-lj1-f182.google.com [209.85.208.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f182.google.com with SMTP id z24so11945044ljn.8 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:12:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=49pN2ynTzTKljhPK6I+Y9+N3/V3dZtQa4N3hSslqYxg=; b=eLrNVsrXiR5uIFj50zNCuQi0zrusOV798AKyEzzhxXNrIdyIkTUQJ5WVL6oCmYlOBt 5DuJXxOtKPb6uMMmh5n2HF+2E/4AIN6cOOA1qluFvCGEtzW+su6FEeB0HsLkWoVKnZnF dqFRAOi4zXc5flnS3j5U2zhTyEozBTAOVQtBNmNkdXULR0jAGpg9yvxZ6QEP7No0+9Se 9CbBR0YZSM7q80448K+t9PmevLgLAWF+tdLa8VfKPZlyAAsSrDy79qAQV248qWEtkyxE wKtzwsczqvRedpdH1GGF4X0LbB0aUwSB7kEyGrUyZmrYZqkNwd4P2/2Epgg6wUERutFp ciXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=49pN2ynTzTKljhPK6I+Y9+N3/V3dZtQa4N3hSslqYxg=; b=rShYtJ4XiXNeRMFK4vyC+tKS6xx4ht++PlLIM95pIt7/ErQNlXcIpl2cnXD3A1BM05 tGTSuGvey+a9TVNZUpuO0k4nE0CX3KR8PieaIELf0y92g4yL2YbwsgQmRxs2So4Jqp0m qMjhBpr6dC+lh7DZj0Ip5mKhHynXcGH9uPDQDYWMH8UyUeN4HBzYc2b6/6bcdLVgCqn5 W9Ng69YpRAjN13kf4jhq+Ek0BAPOxQLNx2cur4ZdX9cLLdqZWdb2CKsa+Scrl+p66XJf rXh6wnw3/FD4gs6NFHT2W+qh3QvClGAC04CinWmSiRPJ1XP5bsPthSiI8YrbtMLaDN4O h+Xg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5306SLjTjIKqYSatuqwVhc+AgegZBKWqCfa/EuF0pzUQrzuMaeph jO8tVMoCXku7WMWL8j/c0ArIj3vkpip00yev4dQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy5rZtaL6TX4ud6p2tDwGQMueF0MaeeyJ6gxDagzZ7h8mLb5l8LFR2nimF+o4TNHsvv8iranb7oo7BGvUN59cA= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:850b:: with SMTP id j11mr4474628lji.30.1594980755694; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:12:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 12:12:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nicolas Grekas Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005de6c805aaa065c6" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.0 From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --0000000000005de6c805aaa065c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:14 AM Nicolas Grekas wrote: > > It's that time of year again. Feature freeze is looming, so it's time to >> talk about deprecations! >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_0 >> > > Thanks for the RFC. > Would it make sense for you to postpone this for 8.1? > I'm talking with my experience on Symfony here: we decided to give ppl > some rest when they upgrade and always have our *.0 versions > deprecations-free. > Chasing BC breaks is a hard enough task for ppl to upgrade. Adding the > additional step of solving deprecations is extra work that is not needed > yet. I know solving deprecations is optional, but many teams have CI that > fail on deprecations. > > I think it could be nicer to the userland community to have a smother path > here, IMHO. > > Nicolas > I've retargeted this RFC to PHP 8.1 now. These deprecations are not time-critical, there has been little discussion of the deprecations themselves, and we're already in feature freeze induced RFC overload... Nikita --0000000000005de6c805aaa065c6--