Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110967 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77784 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2020 18:56:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2020 18:56:41 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20831804DA for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:48:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from bumble.birch.relay.mailchannels.net (bumble.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:48:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|josh@joshbruce.dev Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797DC341377 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-5-123.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.5.123]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BAF503412C4 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|josh@joshbruce.dev Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.8); Sun, 12 Jul 2020 17:48:38 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|josh@joshbruce.dev X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Turn-Illustrious: 53105ac16218ec34_1594576118223_2808963896 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1594576118223:3996147041 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1594576118222 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2C3B423C for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:48:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=joshbruce.dev; h=from :content-type:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; s= joshbruce.dev; bh=9aB+p68lVzApgQ2v8P8bwH9lbuw=; b=ZjDZy2hIg3Y9ho YDQPO2Exp2pX7PM+2pnPGlzr2XuJiYm09HS6VJL2IU2rGeeX3d0zVJTisl/+dgsM CTtOcZnfTNs8eLBM6H6i2sjSWgxyuGMPIkStpwWuY+H9rq5Opr4ThKZD0ka1c2o0 mdkb85vknG8uyfxcYtySUtq0ewk3Y= Received: from joshs-mbp.lan (21.140.29.136.in-addr.arpa [136.29.140.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: josh@joshbruce.dev) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33E95B4249 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:48:36 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EBCE638F-8E3E-4FDB-909E-1B07B6F9CD09" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Message-ID: <7238EFA9-8BE4-48E2-B6C6-6C3E14CFA208@joshbruce.dev> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 12:48:35 -0500 To: php internals X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -51 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduiedrvdeigdduvddtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnegoufhushhpvggtthffohhmrghinhculdegledmnecujfgurhephfgtggfukfffvffosegrtdhmrehhtddvnecuhfhrohhmpeflohhshhcuuehruhgtvgcuoehjohhshhesjhhoshhhsghruhgtvgdruggvvheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhephffhudfhgeehvdfhtdfgteeugfetieffffduueeigeejteevjefhveehledtgeejnecuffhomhgrihhnpegsihhtrdhlhidpvgigthgvrhhnrghlshdrihhonecukfhppedufeeirddvledrudegtddrvddunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhoshhhshdqmhgsphdrlhgrnhdpihhnvghtpedufeeirddvledrudegtddrvddupdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeflohhshhcuuehruhgtvgcuoehjohhshhesjhhoshhhsghruhgtvgdruggvvheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhoshhhsehjohhshhgsrhhutggvrdguvghvpdhnrhgtphhtthhopehinhhtvghrnhgrlhhssehlihhsthhsrdhphhhprdhnvght Subject: [CONCEPT][DISCUSSION] Allow objects to declare emptiness and by extension truthiness From: josh@joshbruce.dev (Josh Bruce) --Apple-Mail=_EBCE638F-8E3E-4FDB-909E-1B07B6F9CD09 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Latest version as we zero in on what this is really about: = https://bit.ly/php-0002 Other threads: 1. https://externals.io/message/110879 = 2. https://externals.io/message/110881 = Thanks for all the feedback so far! Definitely feels like progress. Cheers, Josh= --Apple-Mail=_EBCE638F-8E3E-4FDB-909E-1B07B6F9CD09--