Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110938 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94794 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2020 09:45:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2020 09:45:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A50B180538 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:36:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_SBL,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-io1-f50.google.com (mail-io1-f50.google.com [209.85.166.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-f50.google.com with SMTP id e64so8459809iof.12 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:36:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mirtes.cz; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pHRoc4XWh9CdwlZ4vVlg5lWnqrHjXxz/DXTEVEX7RnI=; b=t6E/sHmyW02DUKS+c6cwXInbUdsxuXkXci1crP1nMEi/KO2YkaIIXGGqx2hPngTknY uT2i84MRW6QMhCYcCF3xAuQure44pSBD8rFOjRjaCgYfg7WMwwtUkapg6cAbMrOxc5mP IqX2VJ195/KJUV3Q+kewkIkD37Kgt555fBPdQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pHRoc4XWh9CdwlZ4vVlg5lWnqrHjXxz/DXTEVEX7RnI=; b=nnbgmSA43IfZQLzY8GbOTymD0vZ7et9Dj6egzMcMrmswhM68zr7JpO/fHu3+2qboBC x0QqvBinhZo9r7QW7j1udHQNyIm1Aop6qtslZ1+8eccIgvTbqHmMX3EJ2MXIDawKGPOE AbkhfkZY+Jk/EkWhwPKi4X7L3DzBMMPsb5Xs78IkkvJYP573OCdnEav1GIBBf9ZDGrl7 2ZcYeBpbU0ZPb7mzpWKTMNTe0F2lschazX73VgYgsmrB2G3Lm2zWN6hETDPmMwFf4nFW PVvLF3xw0J2JrOpsEjxMXit1Mb6QQqm4bwiY8kgq3LlAK+GHzLgbDNOm36NHJlt4uerU +c2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533SrWPXbDeCXVZCrIMyUH1Doyo9OiMQR6Scn2Sh0giCqzV6cONn wbLJtls9sAV6KPcbHBhSQ1vFcqE9nj2S8yb+dgmwCw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxX1NqRoI0x6WC31FCw0oekoJ2tXdqZja/K4o9d1sB1nk4Fr2KropEY4W0YVZw33ng88Jt8or0nfjbPWI00Bck= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9dc4:: with SMTP id 4mr51928396ioo.172.1594456609279; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:36:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:36:38 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ceabff05aa265b25" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Wiki account request: ondrejmirtes From: ondrej@mirtes.cz (=?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Mirtes?=) --000000000000ceabff05aa265b25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Nikita, yes, sure, I=E2=80=99ll have this in mind and participate mor= e - be more vocal about my opinions and experience with static analysis and quality code when discussing new language changes. Thank you. On Sat 11. 7. 2020 at 10:19, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:19 AM Ond=C5=99ej Mirtes wro= te: > >> The main reason is to be able to vote on PHP RFCs. I've created and have >> been maintaining PHPStan, a popular open-source static analyser. >> >> This submission is endorsed by Gabriel Caruso, a current release manager >> of >> PHP 8. >> >> My wiki.php.net username is: ondrejmirtes >> >> Thank you. >> >> Ond=C5=99ej Mirtes >> > > Hi Ondrej, > > I believe it is important to remember that voting is just the last step o= f > the RFC process: While the vote is the final arbiter, the discussion phas= e > that precedes it is where concerns are heard and the proposal is shaped. > > Granting voting rights to persons not contributing to projects under the > php.net umbrella has historically been a bit of a touchy topic. The last > request of this type by Nicolas Grekas was granted specifically because h= e > was already a long-time active participant of the PHP internals mailing > list, and provided valuable insight, especially regarding the impact of > changes in PHP on Symfony and its ecosystem. > > I think that this is an important criterion. Before granting voting > requests, I would really like to see some participation in RFC discussion= s > on the mailing list. A vote is just a single bit of information, while yo= ur > thoughtful insight on how language changes may interact with static > analysis will help shape proposals in a much more significant way. > > Regards, > Nikita > --=20 Ond=C5=99ej Mirtes --000000000000ceabff05aa265b25--