Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110937 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91496 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2020 09:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2020 09:27:37 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601AC1804E6 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:19:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_SBL, URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lj1-f177.google.com (mail-lj1-f177.google.com [209.85.208.177]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f177.google.com with SMTP id q4so9006342lji.2 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:19:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jO2FVAgkYbfAszubE4lXVOTBiMg6NM46XbtbmJFk/LU=; b=Yg0DWxwZpq4NYgFrf4TRf5s/PtHT9zP5WZJ+RZt3oxHha8w+9KYxIChESwnkN4kfAm 2ez/G3tRBZN+z/jxr86nZGKj59xFdn2o2ryhrdusPu382anwyIkHUR0Wktc4aFdmfPUO GHWhHYRtSm7jue3K42qjPIiXnyig7A1x0+Und0I/pQLnCRh6uEhHrxmBRR9qCyGyuRIo 43aKrKq3Elc/P/5S6HVnIeS62mtPxUIBngnA37Let4cjUgKv2lEQx+UOSYVvVsLrc4E4 YAe3ZeLXMeitPsQqSj7cfn+SKoRxpRr6iAF0J5DtEqJborhORl2FMfT2Vb2J//dWuk3+ NQaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jO2FVAgkYbfAszubE4lXVOTBiMg6NM46XbtbmJFk/LU=; b=TTsluxM+gDU2mhQd99gRXFZvJfp6t/kHZWd6ZH8X3Vqfsc9HZE7UzOns7Xu3ELTFE1 EPKo3RN9ofm0K48QGv7KtZ0SrTpOThr0LwATI+w56C/Nw4fzXV5QoKpmMPnz8TypJ4X5 Ze6duPLIvITzKF2MaEYHYZJ1nikUJ8k3Y41fTTLe9ksv1WQ3UHCrxQk0l1VZufof7Adt gkk+tCNa1dDAq4W1P8x0y7gmWXse3VyuXsG07xluslnd5UAbE9X96Fd4U3YMMzb9tP4V u8yT68WjFdvEU/93R4AUTtQ3S74fMO+NB7ljmdlEVdiUup9b4ozOTTOtL4TMl4cciLsP VGtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530baZyd4VJl2cu95fOsMUlFnvB62zoFmYaInmExWqgVTRawOYNt jUsoLBCK2RSYcD+maHkmopvl3nstyQkhg0thY6M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy3zXmitKafZ/09/dcBaoFOjKjDhR/XH+VabRKpBHvXx28s5iP9YbU+vULKSystr6xooBeXVKLkX3CoBgN8xLM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1a7:: with SMTP id c7mr44087042ljn.345.1594455552701; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 01:19:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:18:56 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Ond=C5=99ej_Mirtes?= Cc: Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d4379a05aa261c85" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Wiki account request: ondrejmirtes From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --000000000000d4379a05aa261c85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:19 AM Ond=C5=99ej Mirtes wrote= : > The main reason is to be able to vote on PHP RFCs. I've created and have > been maintaining PHPStan, a popular open-source static analyser. > > This submission is endorsed by Gabriel Caruso, a current release manager = of > PHP 8. > > My wiki.php.net username is: ondrejmirtes > > Thank you. > > Ond=C5=99ej Mirtes > Hi Ondrej, I believe it is important to remember that voting is just the last step of the RFC process: While the vote is the final arbiter, the discussion phase that precedes it is where concerns are heard and the proposal is shaped. Granting voting rights to persons not contributing to projects under the php.net umbrella has historically been a bit of a touchy topic. The last request of this type by Nicolas Grekas was granted specifically because he was already a long-time active participant of the PHP internals mailing list, and provided valuable insight, especially regarding the impact of changes in PHP on Symfony and its ecosystem. I think that this is an important criterion. Before granting voting requests, I would really like to see some participation in RFC discussions on the mailing list. A vote is just a single bit of information, while your thoughtful insight on how language changes may interact with static analysis will help shape proposals in a much more significant way. Regards, Nikita --000000000000d4379a05aa261c85--