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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:24:32 +0200
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To: Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList
From: kjarli@gmail.com (Lynn)

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:38 PM Bob Weinand <bobwei9@hotmail.com> wrote:

> P.s. And to be honest, I've never heard from a dark-skinned person that
> they felt actually oppressed by words like blacklist.
>
> And here my personal opinion, to be taken with a grain of salt: This whole
> white- and blacklist discussion is mostly "hey I want to make black people
> feel more welcome, let me call blacklist bad and condemn everyone not
> agreeing. Then I have done my good deed" - without having any actual impact
> on the well-being of dark-skinned people. - That's what it feels like for
> me, but I'm open to being corrected by those who are actually dark-skinned
> and impacted by it, in which case I'll immediately retract my last sentence.
>

Hi Bob,

Nobody is talking about oppression when it comes to certain "technical"
terms. Please look my post from earlier and look at the tweets I link:
https://externals.io/message/110515#110574

I can recommend everyone to expand their bubble, as a lot of replies in
here show that the bubbles are homogeneous.

Regards,
Lynn

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