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I=0A= > think this is worded awkwardly, and I=92m not sure what the outcome of a= =0A= > yes or not vote means for this question.=0A= =0A= Hi Ben,=0A= =0A= I apologize if the wording is a bit awkward. The primary vote is to=0A= formally approve holding the secondary ranked-choice vote, since all=0A= RFCs require a primary vote with 2/3 majority. If the primary vote=0A= doesn't reach a 2/3 majority, then the results of the secondary vote=0A= won't be binding.=0A= =0A= I haven't heard from anyone who is against holding the ranked-choice=0A= vote, but based on discussion with the RMs we felt it was best to=0A= include this primary vote to make sure the RFC doesn't deviate from=0A= the rules.=0A= =0A= > If I vote =93no,=94 should I still vote in the secondary vote, or is voti= ng=0A= > =93no=94 effectively the same as choosing `<<>>` for all three choices in= =0A= > the secondary vote?=0A= > =0A= > Or, if I vote =93no,=94 does that mean anything I select for the secondar= y=0A= > vote is thrown out?=0A= =0A= No, voting "no" on the primary poll won't add or remove any votes from=0A= the secondary poll. If the `<<>>` syntax is your first choice, you=0A= should mark it as such in the secondary poll.=0A= =0A= Best regards,=0A= Theodore=0A=