Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110636 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1808 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2020 23:14:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2020 23:14:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A9A18050B for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:00:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS48854 94.231.96.0/20 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from smtp.simply.com (smtp.simply.com [94.231.106.220]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com (mail-wr1-f48.google.com [209.85.221.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by smtp.simply.com (Simply.com) with ESMTPSA id 49nJsW1Kp8z63ZT for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:00:31 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=givoni.dk; s=unoeuro; t=1592431231; bh=UKcIPxivcWb15fHkvNvO3d9iTPsTThXBHblkuVlTxSo=; h=References:In-Reply-To:From:Date:Subject:To:Cc:From; b=lYgV7W5oEizyy2A5DRTmgOXiP0Lw5CcjmwSeYU1zqWwkWuCIhevraH01mbp4YdNr7 c3zRfaCdnCPDZwghtOZt54s33Pbf+hXazL+Ai/do7kO1w1DJFOMe50MIiOhPXTGN8L sMHe62LUMzaslpngVBg7NxbFN/XaKq7ttkOx1nK4= Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id q2so1534937wrv.8 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530+nH7LC2wZP8e/g+u0SYtFhwH5MoyaznfD2L4TUCsx3DshDkrG lIpNUI7XmeuvOFUiPZUqAi3+G6DI7SUHpQQYfvM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyx0QvfMJ9sshpScj+Zi54H2HvdLNruFK6ZPhALdoETxPEXL5hSCqxr4ZLQWzGJdW4Y1vACgP4yVPqt0Cf1zjU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:12c8:: with SMTP id l8mr1341443wrx.148.1592431230898; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:00:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <001c01d64333$2d695840$883c08c0$@roze.lv> <99cc98b6-78a3-4a94-a780-357000354c4a@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <99cc98b6-78a3-4a94-a780-357000354c4a@www.fastmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:00:19 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: Michael Cordover Cc: Levi Morrison via internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: jakob@givoni.dk (Jakob Givoni) On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 6:49 PM Michael Cordover wrote: > > The black in black hole and the white in whitespace are descriptions of the actual colors of these things. > There's no value judgement there. > Blacklist, on the other hand, is explicitly making a judgement that things on that list are bad. > The association of "black" with "bad" (and "white" with "good" in whitelist) is the problem, not merely the use of a color at all. Yes, someone who gets it. I am using the term "blacklist" often in the project I work on, and it never occurred to me before that it could be considered offensive. But I learned something new in this thread and I am thankful for that! Best, Jakob