Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110635 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60748 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2020 17:07:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2020 17:07:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9A81804F2 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS3301 81.224.0.0/12 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from v-smtpout2.han.skanova.net (v-smtpout2.han.skanova.net [81.236.60.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 08:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.9] ([84.55.126.158]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id laMujPhWxgqzTlaMuj7uDt; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:52:52 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=c5=82_Brzuchalski?= References: Cc: PHP Internals List Message-ID: <1137f70b-55f6-3f38-4523-dfa517f0e0ff@telia.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:52:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfE9IHchKBqjb6+mhA7+oxYGeopqEgLqOnur+atQA+HhjZmKFL++QT21GXwWtjBtW0LFRE+BoLU6u5vzeE4oPJ+yQZuV6qdcIfKbNLkZ7hUhXHVJ18orY KHJVbtBGwwmTocvLVI2kyPvFsX/7cl/d+5Sq1ARR+Vw/tQdK2/Kahhj/KZx1dh0dlnworf2MJmsRX/JfyRKovTpOAUHQxsBGrLQ9WuEmQd09LF3orYuFp4pn Subject: Re: [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList From: bjorn.x.larsson@telia.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Bj=c3=b6rn_Larsson?=) Den 2020-06-16 kl. 14:14, skrev Michał Brzuchalski: > Hi Internals, > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. > > The RFC is here https://wiki.php.net/rfc/change-terminology-to-excludelist > > Discussions should remain on the list. > Any emails sent directly are likely to be replied to on the list. > > Cheers, > Michał Marcin Brzuchalski Hi, Some comments: - I miss from this RFC how it affects documentation if any and with that   how it affects translation of the documentation. So even if it's a small   effort to change a few lines in the INI file, it might be bigger doing it in   the documentation and also come up with good translations to other   languages. - I assume that there is a limited amount of people working with INI files,   primarily sysadmins and to some degree developers and they are not   doing it everyday. So is it fair to assume that it's a limited amount of   people working with INI files and they are not doing it every day? - In a hosting environment where this INI file lives it's fair to assume that   multiple versions of PHP are hosted, e.g. today it can be both 5.6 and 7.x.   So for the sysadmin there will be different names for same functionality   in the INI file when 8.0 comes out. - As a side note, the default version shipped with the recent CentOS 7.8   version, it's PHP 5.4. I also think it's a bit premature to jump on this wagon for several reasons. r//Björn L