Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110592 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40729 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2020 15:10:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2020 15:10:23 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63B61804E1 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:55:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS36483 23.83.208.0/21 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from crocodile.birch.relay.mailchannels.net (crocodile.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:55:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender-Id: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA853619A8 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cp9.ukdns.biz (100-96-2-93.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.2.93]) (Authenticated sender: s0seqk11zu) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2C35D36077D for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:55:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk Received: from cp9.ukdns.biz (cp9.ukdns.biz [95.215.224.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.8); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:55:47 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: s0seqk11zu|x-authuser|lester@lsces.uk X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: s0seqk11zu X-Arch-Towering: 3448c7b10326fdbe_1592315746878_1511471258 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1592315746878:501354695 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1592315746878 Received: from [85.255.236.69] (port=5883 helo=[192.168.43.78]) by cp9.ukdns.biz with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jlC3y-00FQeG-7q for internals@lists.php.net; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:55:42 +0100 To: internals@lists.php.net References: Message-ID: <37381398-3330-e5c3-4ae8-e668ca545194@lsces.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 14:55:41 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-ID: 1jlC3y-00FQeG-7q X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-thewebhostserver-MailScanner-From: lester@lsces.uk X-AuthUser: lester@lsces.uk Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList From: lester@lsces.uk (Lester Caine) On 16/06/2020 13:14, MichaƂ Brzuchalski wrote: > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. Since there will be a higher level change to all these terms - in all likelihood - trying to push yet another term that does not match the current discussions elsewhere seems somewhat premature. The NEXT RFC will be to bring this in line with the 'new' industrial standard, so is there any point jumping the gun before the international debate has finished? "blocklist", "banlist", and others all have appropriate application but like "excludelist", they all imply a narrower usage area while "blacklist" is accepted generally across all applications. What ever alternative to "blacklist" is adopted elsewhere is going to cause confusion and adding to that confusion with a different 'translation' just makes the situation worse? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - https://lsces.uk/wiki/Contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - https://lsces.uk Model Engineers Digital Workshop - https://medw.uk Rainbow Digital Media - https://rainbowdigitalmedia.uk