Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110590 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37069 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2020 15:04:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2020 15:04:27 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E136180531 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ej1-f41.google.com (mail-ej1-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-f41.google.com with SMTP id f7so21583490ejq.6 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:49:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=28uIu/1/PjCWL1bfxbB24H5iN2ud2CQCqkGWJQW4kWE=; b=XkdDUHmGMx6AbMz3UuB9kSY8KXjni24Bxzw9DueDvvCJmoh2eEB6pATG+aKlalcqKx euf2KsTpICY/qG32TFjtQIqsNIGdNVe+Qxp8evcU/OfQIghDRek3+ydvvAC6RCgNReRn S2PqPNqir5BfhDeLD6/Y+HV4dTW+88+qsrZFFHWzxAyUFXqono+1/CbTFcm5ufpJt2Xx uOfUKLdjVLGkAjH2Dx97dnN+xWFOZIz9ml4Ohuoo1jRtxPNE5zRwDtPkXvc3qt0iUTiK tSCjmaEXwY0XwgeJoMnWqK6eGKyTXHKIR380DuYWwbplSomkpzsW4b3ef0Y+tA3rkBrb RjwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=28uIu/1/PjCWL1bfxbB24H5iN2ud2CQCqkGWJQW4kWE=; b=U28ilp5XEviXZ2dbjYUu01MYOhcX+xEYKPcEYRLnMQVrSDseyKOfGI5vlkk8o6w6CR YFOqmWYNbk+IXLUE6r4lIvlkgo48TUMKJu3DaSa5BZj3SS8thZdK87eDJl5x9+DeC3Dw GGithEEhcHIMOj26OUJuEC/s31fGRnJJxZqszlV4uMIYNGdcxvfjh/9dbeQDBZYKezvL RMi/Yi+ou/yGRQuHHVIfX7mPnA9FcBxIx4id1PPPFLqsdBwu2xu0RSpIBUxg+pmX2i3Y FQnA8WSJCg9kaBx8Uzseaa6dgo61tsM2iK3+ZIjGLBjTh4MAXUMX1Rn66VI1ndHe/rhb mWVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Y5ZWyqrZqCl8Fxm7dS4+kKZPUyreuwsbi6F7JGQKdFdfsTV6v 0GrZ2gbHbt5CTdc7AElsAF8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxUiRP209CP2TEGkXBRNNcT7ZenSvZ6kL89+LwyZvXGkFX/dL+QrmrVO1G8IS7PzIYXiqWOFQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:81c8:: with SMTP id e8mr2680770ejx.361.1592315390797; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from claude.fritz.box ([185.129.55.233]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j11sm11216885ejk.67.2020.06.16.06.49.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_702133C1-8815-4249-97AD-136A8D52DCD5" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 15:49:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: PHP Internals List To: =?utf-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Brzuchalski?= References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList From: claude.pache@gmail.com (Claude Pache) --Apple-Mail=_702133C1-8815-4249-97AD-136A8D52DCD5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Le 16 juin 2020 =C3=A0 14:14, Micha=C5=82 Brzuchalski = a =C3=A9crit : >=20 > Hi Internals, >=20 > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to = change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. >=20 >=20 > The RFC is here = https://wiki.php.net/rfc/change-terminology-to-excludelist = Hi, I object that the proposed term is in any way clearer. =E2=80=9CBlacklist=E2= =80=9D is an idiomatic term with a well-established meaning, so that it = is immediately recognisable, and it couldn=E2=80=99t mean anything else = that it intends to mean. On the other hand, =E2=80=9Cexclude_list=E2=80=9D= is less common, and since I am not accustomed to that terminology, I = have to analyse the expression, or rather, since English has the = unfortunate tendency to stack words without specifying neither their = function nor the precise relation between them, I have to guess what it = could mean, with good chance of getting wrong: =E2=80=9Cexclude the = list=E2=80=9D? whereas =E2=80=9Cblacklist=E2=80=9D means in fact: = =E2=80=9Clist of items to exclude=E2=80=9D. =E2=80=94Claude= --Apple-Mail=_702133C1-8815-4249-97AD-136A8D52DCD5--