Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110552 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47730 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2020 00:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2020 00:59:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4101804B7 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,SPF_PASS, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS5518 213.175.64.0/18 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from zeona.lv (roze.lv [213.175.74.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 16:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MezhRoze (unknown [10.8.0.69]) by zeona.lv (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F227200A0027 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 02:44:59 +0300 (EEST) To: "'PHP internals'" References: <4b921c5f-db2b-1e2a-ed2a-1add5c9b6663@gmail.com> <20200615174645.GP14030@phcomp.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 02:44:58 +0300 Message-ID: <000901d6436e$fb202620$f1607260$@roze.lv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Thread-Index: AQKedFVy18zqOHh0a6fM0d6G+iAh1AJmGkpEAhBoeNQBt8RqWQJzYzC5AiOJunim87n2QA== Content-Language: lv Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: r@roze.lv ("Reinis Rozitis") > Last, regarding neutrality. This proposal is literally aimed at = adopting more- > neutral language. It's not a partisan move to say that harmful = language > should be avoided. The problem (imo) is projecting/tying relations and social interactions = (past and present) between people onto machine code (and nowadays also = everything else) instead of explaining that there is no connection (the = idea itself to declare that black is bad and white good for everything = is absurd (was mentioned as an argument) - different cultures/nations = have wildly wide range symbolisms regarding colors and now for some = reason there is suddenly only one?). But if current (php) code is considered harmful/offending the next = proposal/rfc should be to remove every "kill child/parent" fpm (possibly = other sapis) /pcntl,posix (kill_children() from the tests) also die() = and *_execute etc. as no sane person would agree that it's even = remotely normal not to say more. rr