Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110547 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28004 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 23:58:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2020 23:58:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7111804DA for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:44:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pl1-f173.google.com (mail-pl1-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-f173.google.com with SMTP id y17so7448671plb.8 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VHaByAgjWZgHFf4a+jDXSEV139b8s7tQwTsp6PL33nY=; b=FUItxeicW9GSB0XNEtdRtz7kxhgeXMBFExr3nVDMDc9eYyHspliLYPFnqzgZJoHxmo 46tza3D4kfdRRZj1JTrym7eouuIKJekg1wE6r/lOh4pWGdxo+V5w8MMys1NCwjK+M23O bqqkQnHSqLhwokFoBO6Cgk4dUctX1WYJ6xoVqqX5LbqhRJmwqDzXtKEUlyJ6n430DXF5 74WTXFSAKvk/DKv0yAqPFFlN0g8CLEyPpB2kN7Od8GSWruG0/PJ953eEupvv9zvEWPRl P173eYExZEgMSubGbUmjzVbH4/fN4q2ZTr6i0uOsqTkg60NZRos1rAaX+4MZAXuQATmJ zTAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VHaByAgjWZgHFf4a+jDXSEV139b8s7tQwTsp6PL33nY=; b=KodB2N/yeSP2lvRQHtvgSeRig6HTVY0ShxYa02qBU7JMjpirx87oMd4jIcKPVTnH0T kcFjbfiRuJkdHNlUcleSS9Ol3fdIDPQVbO9eByNgzt3kFHWAtqVau6I+Xy09ifvf/eIY Eo0Mltyx8uYmvUa487C5/INM6tPozuXwp2f+mohTob40lXBOmrvfHigYf34e8sk6y+ec B1r3eP9pZPInS6i/PgKIpGsWFNRxlrfPVGGNYD+lBtej5W5w1GuwPUYHMKc7id748VQu wsGWT1wfZNhZ22UxoaYR0wCTi7px7bUycPyf1lTJbwVhuW9tdneMqdxSdwDup56BNtUN 8JVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5325pO2IBrjoxox+nTOIM9mj7hH1dvlYjieKvQtKcVJgxDnB9cDe FDApwPEhj6lmEXZs0kjiSfqBg8+q0Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxBVhNyU4jCzUQZJFitx0bAIPqEGiHP6AU9d5vvkyV4uRhQjupDn4JCVPqKqkx5SiUt2lpJ3Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:2708:: with SMTP id o8mr1393853pje.161.1592261040653; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Mac-3.local (ec2-34-209-88-149.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com. [34.209.88.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id oc6sm454554pjb.43.2020.06.15.15.43.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:43:59 -0700 (PDT) To: Sara Golemon Cc: PHP internals References: <4b921c5f-db2b-1e2a-ed2a-1add5c9b6663@gmail.com> <20200615174645.GP14030@phcomp.co.uk> Message-ID: <25e2ca61-434a-63d7-ba92-e9c9ecf679b9@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:43:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Last, regarding neutrality. This proposal is literally aimed at adopting > more-neutral language. It's not a partisan move to say that harmful > language should be avoided. It is a decidedly political claim that long-time industry standard term with established neutral meaning is suddenly "harmful". And I really resent the implication of "the color of our skin means you don't get to have an opinion on this topic" that was made here. That said, I personally am not going to read any messages on this topic for a while because I have enough negative emotions lately in my life without this. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com