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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 23:41:05 +0200
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To: Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist,
 proposal to replace.
From: deleugyn@gmail.com (Deleu)

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+1.

While I agree that the status of the php project makes the discussion much
more productive by having an actionable process in place, I do sympathize
with the original author in the thread. You can see that with a simple and
small action that is highlighted in the RFC guide as step 1 (gauge people's
opinion on the mailing list), there's already a ton of negativity towards
said action.
People arguing BC breaks without even knowing the scope of the change
clearly show biased.

As white men, we're being dismissive, insensitive and strongly suggesting
we don't want change. While people may not feel offended by any of these
terms being discussed, this thread alone already serves as reason for
people to feel like there's no room for diversity in the internal community
of php.
I believe that if we cannot come together to take the small (potentially
insignificant) step towards making changes that signal a welcoming
environment, how are we going to actually take the big steps?

Nobody writes an entire system without writing its first "hello world".


On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 20:05 Lynn <kjarli@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:46 PM Alain D D Williams <addw@phcomp.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > It is very easy to take offence when none is meant at all. One needs to
> > look at intent.
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to disagree here. It's not about intent, it's about impact. You
> can have the best intentions with the worst results.
>
> When I read the replies here, it makes me sad. The comments come from a
> place of white privilege and I'm sad to see that's how people think about
> it.
>
> Regards,
> Lynn
>

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