Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110526 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27044 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 18:15:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2020 18:15:15 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A01A18057A for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f50.google.com (mail-pj1-f50.google.com [209.85.216.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f50.google.com with SMTP id h22so110718pjf.1 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GjoY0IM3xX+dQJJRqa6BO1uJf81YXw0QHB2LZaiZjB4=; b=Ab58g/hWrQc2dOxid9I2LWt0lihIprDfkiqWnlfHvttvnsRHFP+ZNYzXK+X2U8Z9pN PK3kEaaJwhcUkQ1BQx+Xa7NCzNw3vy+0qdWYGVgjhAW+wcMB1t9Mqnlu/RyYQA7EutCD n38zxZAXZP9g4zhYj+ujixAfZr2G0N7jCbZSKKG6vIf2HI5V8fpcjpLWFAPCJKSCdqwL PpIAfBCtLi/MnubvCQKvk0pWcpC7+Of0SUrhDMt5qGmyg9Q425T34ouU/Z+4SoYQKqRX xOAfVA/wceDPhBi2BOFbccVRdrOnqMw550/MM4IhfTUmf1J5iKsfq1Z8Bw0vsihQes8M +T5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GjoY0IM3xX+dQJJRqa6BO1uJf81YXw0QHB2LZaiZjB4=; b=bsklTbRhubgNuTkCjI0x9vZlHDzwnvrGwoeAiqT7uSMMye/3KFex8jWj5lp5AMpknN DaEEtL0Y5DbWNl7P7gdgLaa3bmZQZmMZCa6sFwb0/PPegamgpczju3DLapk3JFyrgL/n WFYUysX0QkZyUlqLXMC/jM0eGVP8RxSKV1u1Kzakc3gJ4FbEguAy7k1OFoOyCfD1r8FG r7s4ITzXKmAmu3zGOA6iNoYW3s9qj8E09bIg0RrXfn1kiV129JcHOAb1i/63XnegKEGM Qm769IlNWutIpjPL6Eh/j2WQKRmwZeGL7SSBWJkuG7LzXBJjCXyse/p+0GJkxSS4niDl wBjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530UIVjG0iz/RsFnb42rWvX64hhLpzUUr0Hx2Xwhg1MCjUAlJITo nmQo1LgwB7TjIjRNjWnCWQGVrjgkRw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxbH3r3rhOkzlWec2kOJ+KfpaVeKfaf8AUvZdOEe2W/66EXJhSSctdHDdPDLGRhuu2KGWSbFA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:fe10:: with SMTP id g16mr21777258plj.53.1592240424987; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Stas-Mac-3.local ([173.239.198.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a5sm14305795pfi.41.2020.06.15.10.00.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:24 -0700 (PDT) To: Daniel Rodrigues Lima , PHP Internals References: Message-ID: <4b921c5f-db2b-1e2a-ed2a-1add5c9b6663@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:00:22 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I think the time has come for the PHP internals to discuss the use of master/slave and blacklist terminologies. > As everyone can see, we are going through times of change in the world, see #blackLivesMatter for example. While your quest for more just and fair world is noble and laudable, I think your energies are misplaced in this case. Terms like "blacklist" are established industry terms (and are used also outside the industry - there's a TV show which is called literally "The Blacklist") and have absolutely nothing to do with race or any other human traits. Objecting to "blacklist" makes as much sense as objecting to terms such as "whitespace", "blackout", "white paper", "red-black tree", "rainbow tables", or declaring the keyword "final" to be anti-Semitic because there was "final solution". I think there is many other ways to more productively spend your time than inventing reasons why innocent words suddenly have nefarious meanings. However, you are, as literally anybody is, with no regard to any political labels, free to submit a pull request against PHP source and we will take a look at it then. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com