Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110524 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22814 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 18:06:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2020 18:06:15 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497FB180508 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f49.google.com (mail-lf1-f49.google.com [209.85.167.49]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f49.google.com with SMTP id w15so9953707lfe.11 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1ZraQ/9ETE2dq0jjjDbcdnQeAfww+KxrN+amD4sDEvc=; b=KlhW9AsBbWM+nxtD9tfJBwp5eWyKVNGcSayNLqQaycB55CZGzGSeX3ogMpfQrr06gK zVKch4ufhCrgldEZKv5Sk6QRgRJ+5+KEotHka7MlBJWguH3Pfo1v6Okhqy0p3pIExeZK WHULPPjNPLeN8Dpsq7WrKUedQ79TbTVfPfBb9NjB+IaTNvqoeTjlSw1cBtI4aZf+WKPg TLnxjwVButmRxUZ6ko0mtiv/TQ8YjKskEiCxQ8TvBhDhBGkx9YBD4WHs1AKWgHDDxurr Hgmqb6uoGYYm9I7iyOu9wB+ynFfyIXN0yAqUHkKoLwkuSOcMJFyYtgP8st+76ujNHzNn o4ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1ZraQ/9ETE2dq0jjjDbcdnQeAfww+KxrN+amD4sDEvc=; b=GraYisa/F3sgVHcRZDJdcabVdhIcFRTqffk0qQN80u4785fNUxdyi2qx5NkWsavJuF Lsx1I/LKghUGf2E5veFVpoCnSkR8Xf4ldypPbGCf7Vpd4Ip5DUBpffvWiMMqdDPiXVGs t7VEdV1qT+M/ajqqT8DcC0SEY2cp6FVCTooBMGNaJmwHCY/M6r/1bFKW5b6Gtg413mu7 ezVLYI+QQQAd5Er+m0/fZ0+nPWpwIitkdLi11QCXWqgNNKaquakik5mq2/JVNV+ne+Sh ZU0oGgYQe7pZ00WGf5hLj9b9/7gk6Nojrgn8LsOxyM6MJhvmv3EB9OOBk5ozZt3DgXFY JMyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532AnYSqM9qDNXCDnvuftoDQ2017/rm5XH8gliGPuWkDrdFMCywy 7+dguS+MAbIo+HTwKjJP1cMlhydkYvHRgEkmWQA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyZPlllho9t/CTyhyrqDg1fk1J8KbOCd8ZE76BO6kjNt4YftXaoN8AOi6CKuczyJCgrSSycvYJW2sjZvoCxYpE= X-Received: by 2002:a19:c016:: with SMTP id q22mr14209927lff.191.1592239885654; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:51:09 +0200 Message-ID: To: Daniel Rodrigues Lima Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c81d4605a8223cc2" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --000000000000c81d4605a8223cc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:43 PM Daniel Rodrigues Lima < danielrodrigues-ti@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi internals, > > I think the time has come for the PHP internals to discuss the use of > master/slave and blacklist terminologies. > As everyone can see, we are going through times of change in the world, > see #blackLivesMatter for example. > Therefore, I propose that we discuss the non-use of terms master/slave, > because the use of this can allude to the slavery and negative feelings > about black people. > If you would like to rename user-visible symbols, please create an RFC, which details what exactly will be renamed, analyzes what the backward compatibility impact will be and provides a sensible migration path and timeline. If I may be honest, I find it somewhat disrespectful that you started this thread without investing any effort from your side. A simple "grep backlist" and "grep master" on the PHP codebase would have gone a long way towards identifying what can/should be changed. Regards, Nikita --000000000000c81d4605a8223cc2--