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Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist,
 proposal to replace.
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist,
 proposal to replace.
From: danielrodrigues-ti@hotmail.com (Daniel Rodrigues Lima)

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Hi Kalle,

I understand your position.

But i believe that changing retrograde terminologies that refer to bad feel=
ings,
doesn't put us anywhere politically.


It's not about sides, it's about people, and our community is made up of pe=
ople.

--
Cheers,

Daniel Rodrigues

geekcom@php.net
https://twitter.com/geekcom2



________________________________
De: Kalle Sommer Nielsen <kalle@php.net>
Enviado: segunda-feira, 15 de junho de 2020 12:58
Para: Daniel Rodrigues Lima <danielrodrigues-ti@hotmail.com>
Cc: PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Assunto: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklis=
t, proposal to replace.

Hi

Den man. 15. jun. 2020 kl. 18.43 skrev Daniel Rodrigues Lima
<danielrodrigues-ti@hotmail.com>:
>
> Hi internals,
>
> I think the time has come for the PHP internals to discuss the use of mas=
ter/slave and blacklist terminologies.
> As everyone can see, we are going through times of change in the world, s=
ee #blackLivesMatter for example.
> Therefore, I propose that we discuss the non-use of terms master/slave, b=
ecause the use of this can allude to the slavery and negative feelings abou=
t black people.

We are an open source project and should be politically neutral,
changing this not only causes a huge BC break, but puts us in a
position where we are no longer politically neutral. You should be
able to join and be a part of the PHP project without feeling
obligated to follow certain global politics like trying to not use
blacklist, master, slave or whatever flavour of the day word here that
may be offensive to someone.

The moment we change blacklist to blocklist, we are essentially
agreeing to the fact that we should censor words because they contain
a color in its name, something that is totally unrelated to any human
race. Are we also gonna change the internal values of the Garbage
Collector for PHP to not use different color markings or what about
the IMG_BLACKMAN filter, are we gonna rename that even though it is
named so after the Blackman-Turkey transformation? Of course we should
not. We cannot go around and censor words that have no correlation to
the current political events occurring world wide. This here is just
an example of changing things for the sake of changing.

--
regards,

Kalle Sommer Nielsen
kalle@php.net

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