Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110516 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 6075 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2020 17:13:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2020 17:13:21 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782011804FD for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:58:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-pj1-f52.google.com (mail-pj1-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pj1-f52.google.com with SMTP id d6so32409pjs.3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:58:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ff5i7a/vSFuD9y1x3dUl8t/2/eRi31gH1482GjZsd/4=; b=AgwUTUSaCfGkneIp33BaGjpIv+vY55NYb2xz4u8sNBsKIWsHsVfxc1UQsfrSQr4AKm vAxMpsNoq8K9VfGZzJy1CyV9IPSkdW1w+GopmhMkFlLzApNvkk6FFaVi66py7BmhU+ig eAlYD98vI5v4Yt5seM8VhT4k36H1rySfUVP4O5lKjnKx/ZS79uBzIIheXK/9FW6gq6rN YKBX3osYLvpYtR9mh8PPsG19gFTB15VCYSI1MBu9vl64KBFM8IdS/WMbx5vbLz5OKrYe t+KCnYKnlarHkANHB2PLpIm36D4Un1rNcuQiMQyhisOlImAmLZqQQKRStTrvenI7TEUv 8T+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5318h7SsOVS15SkDuH4lbUUHeDhsasO2re973gsixoDlIBkf0zNQ UkdFoFny9STw731siT5CQPnXHAmTZdj/XO5Gq/MdEZM6 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzATb3HV8t1a7WphwXR29O+sD1TO+XNqiupTdP7+ICZBoDcnUzKA2VwOIDqW6UrCss8NPMGs23YjjH4HfiQyx0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:8089:: with SMTP id c9mr15845pjn.126.1592236711005; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:58:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:58:20 +0300 Message-ID: To: Daniel Rodrigues Lima Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About the use of the terms master/slave and blacklist, proposal to replace. From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi Den man. 15. jun. 2020 kl. 18.43 skrev Daniel Rodrigues Lima : > > Hi internals, > > I think the time has come for the PHP internals to discuss the use of master/slave and blacklist terminologies. > As everyone can see, we are going through times of change in the world, see #blackLivesMatter for example. > Therefore, I propose that we discuss the non-use of terms master/slave, because the use of this can allude to the slavery and negative feelings about black people. We are an open source project and should be politically neutral, changing this not only causes a huge BC break, but puts us in a position where we are no longer politically neutral. You should be able to join and be a part of the PHP project without feeling obligated to follow certain global politics like trying to not use blacklist, master, slave or whatever flavour of the day word here that may be offensive to someone. The moment we change blacklist to blocklist, we are essentially agreeing to the fact that we should censor words because they contain a color in its name, something that is totally unrelated to any human race. Are we also gonna change the internal values of the Garbage Collector for PHP to not use different color markings or what about the IMG_BLACKMAN filter, are we gonna rename that even though it is named so after the Blackman-Turkey transformation? Of course we should not. We cannot go around and censor words that have no correlation to the current political events occurring world wide. This here is just an example of changing things for the sake of changing. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net