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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:49:01 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC] Rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON
From: chasepeeler@gmail.com (Chase Peeler)

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Encountering  T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM is a right of passage in the PHP
world. I had to deal with it, so should everyone else. :-P

While it'll be bittersweet to see it go, I definitely think this would be a
wise update.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:58 PM Ryan Jentzsch <ryan.jentzsch@gmail.com>
wrote:

> With over 25+ years of software development experience it was In 2016 I was
> introduced to the world of PHP development.
> One day I came across the most unusual of error messages
> "T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM" What the hell is this?!?
> That I needed to waste my time to Google this is simply insane. At the time
> I thought to myself that PHP deserved some of the hate. Then I came across
> this gem: https://phil.tech/2013/t-paamayim-nekudotayim-v-sanity/
> Please for the sake of logic and sanity replace this nonsense with
> T_DOUBLE_COLON
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020, 9:14 AM G. P. B. <george.banyard@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Greetings PHP internals,
> >
> > Kalle Sommer Nielsen and myself are proposing to rename the
> > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
> > token into the already existing T_DOUBLE_COLON alias,
> > T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM would then become an alias to T_DOUBLE_COLON.
> >
> > The RFC is located here:
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/rename-double-colon-token
> >
> > Although this token is a nod to the valuable contributions made by the
> > Isrealie community we believe this token is rather confusing for
> newcomers.
> > Moreso, as PHP is for many people their first programming language,
> > they may not have some of the habits like googling errors when
> > they are stuck, which leads to a frustrating experience.
> >
> > As we believe PHP still has many years of existence we think it is time
> > to rename this token.
> >
> > This is backwards compatible with PHP 7 and 5.
> > This RFC does not lay out a plan for deprecating T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM
> > and leaves this as a future scope.
> >
> > As the matter on hand is a relatively straight forward yes/no vote we
> > expect
> > it to be held after the minimum 2 week discussion period.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > George Peter Banyard
> >
>


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