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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 11:24:43 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.0
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 11:14 AM Nicolas Grekas <nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> It's that time of year again. Feature freeze is looming, so it's time to
>> talk about deprecations!
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_0
>>
>
> Thanks for the RFC.
> Would it make sense for you to postpone this for 8.1?
> I'm talking with my experience on Symfony here: we decided to give ppl
> some rest when they upgrade and always have our *.0 versions
> deprecations-free.
> Chasing BC breaks is a hard enough task for ppl to upgrade. Adding the
> additional step of solving deprecations is extra work that is not needed
> yet. I know solving deprecations is optional, but many teams have CI that
> fail on deprecations.
>
> I think it could be nicer to the userland community to have a smother path
> here, IMHO.
>
> Nicolas
>

Hey Nicolas,

I'm certainly open to that! I don't think there's any strong reason to
deprecate any of these in PHP 8.0 in particular, as we'll only be able to
drop them in PHP 9.0 anyway. Anyone else have thoughts on that?

We do already have a couple of deprecation in PHP 8.0, but those are
generally directly related to some change that happened in PHP 8.0 in
particular.

Regards,
Nikita

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