Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110384 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16431 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2020 10:32:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2020 10:32:13 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770C11804CE for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 02:14:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-ed1-f46.google.com (mail-ed1-f46.google.com [209.85.208.46]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 02:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-f46.google.com with SMTP id m32so1699739ede.8 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 02:14:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=LFLLjQwHk/QEy0WuFWMTU1dvtZioHKvG9EAqvOdezMM=; b=fQ6U8LKvhRmBraXLLVa+bDVqAWNidsovjiY75KS/+7cfos8Lq6cu7iLB504Mgvu9HC nSlwoFPbJPE2JNV/agGP3oXSNBUV0kj5FABzoVA+wmiRGW9B7ycMqzoD/gQuDwj7zk3D WGnJU8l0to87C9ZrGuqPLRu515RIYG6th+5yw96ZKps0/R8JG04n3KkBTW07MqFxmiis LmXnI9E9ypDYF/jkVjw4FDMb4G4kYOKNZ8wIkPBYrtyYtkk/WDnVkdFZBOXjKzK1sbKX Lgh6+oCmtm5uZSHshl6tMBNGLkp8KuujaBdM2+EY6zWjsMTYvz9jWU6jYRUpelvH7NTq jq2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=LFLLjQwHk/QEy0WuFWMTU1dvtZioHKvG9EAqvOdezMM=; b=ZTqjrshbt647NkMxvxiWeti2H9E52KxiB6N1T8Gbx0+qW/580YcBb3xEmFqaKEAkfT uzuub4+V3z1rfYITIf6ldB7r6xev1b0LApzSrKm9M3DQ2qgO6GJ8VV9mAdaENm+90ius L/aZhnpCdX0u9R8epjPQbL2j0kVHadhbSdXTjwl6rvsJEJ2GZPUEmtuL0J74yG4SXB3D oxGpUodeRS8XNmTNoNS7foBBymdIDVGdKeYTPkjxxnZLMaPmr1OPtB26HbvGTswDk4Wa y6UDp0C9WNgXJksFmJ5X72GtjGsptKqR6mE2VOOGyQCiDeePtYQIAALBYUD5yx9eQwPl NVTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531VPWe+0NxCgJpRq8UsBjoJO/jTG9keTirRDvdQNzHdQgw81zdB M+IYBMWob8E2j3AC1Mfb4gSJDUdJH8LaIVdyXdM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwjrg7ZkpKuQZWifoVRptzPSfh1fJzd6pyfJ0RHakWBKM2eiQZ5dMws1YbG97wTwt0xD4oEojeoPPU79sV8Zjs= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d359:: with SMTP id m25mr7994462edr.365.1591348489021; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 02:14:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 11:14:37 +0200 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000066ee7205a752b14e" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecations for PHP 8.0 From: nicolas.grekas+php@gmail.com (Nicolas Grekas) --00000000000066ee7205a752b14e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > It's that time of year again. Feature freeze is looming, so it's time to > talk about deprecations! > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/deprecations_php_8_0 > Thanks for the RFC. Would it make sense for you to postpone this for 8.1? I'm talking with my experience on Symfony here: we decided to give ppl some rest when they upgrade and always have our *.0 versions deprecations-free. Chasing BC breaks is a hard enough task for ppl to upgrade. Adding the additional step of solving deprecations is extra work that is not needed yet. I know solving deprecations is optional, but many teams have CI that fail on deprecations. I think it could be nicer to the userland community to have a smother path here, IMHO. Nicolas --00000000000066ee7205a752b14e--