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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 08:24:35 +0300
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To: Theodore Brown <theodorejb@outlook.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Shorter attribute syntax
From: benas.molis.iml@gmail.com (Benas IML)

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Hello,

thank you for the RFC but I hope it doesn't pass. Here's my constructive
feedback as to why.

Verbosity? Are we really debating whether adding 2 extra characters is more
"verbose"? Well, with 3 or more grouped attributes, we are less verbose by 1
character. I don't find "verbosity" to be an argument as to why we should
use
the `@@` syntax.

Moreover, we become inconsistent with basically every other programming
language. Even `<<...>>` syntax is more consistent since our sister language
Hack has it. I don't think it's a good idea to reinvent the wheel.

And well, a BC break, even as small as it, is a BC break.

Best regards,
Benas

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020, 2:55 AM Theodore Brown <theodorejb@outlook.com> wrote:

> Hi internals,
>
> I discussed the syntax for attributes further with Benjamin, Martin,
> and several other internals developers off-list, and with their
> feedback completed an RFC proposing to use the shorter `@@` syntax
> instead of `<<>>` for attributes in PHP 8.
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/shorter_attribute_syntax
>
> The goal is not to bikeshed over subjective syntax preferences,
> but to address several concrete shortcomings related to verbosity,
> nested attributes, confusion with generics and other tokens, and
> dissimilarity to other common languages.
>
> Best regards,
> Theodore
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