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[96.61.170.50]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m126sm8217637qke.99.2020.05.29.15.58.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 29 May 2020 15:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ECC5663-F3CA-465A-93A5-037122D9B26A@benramsey.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_50531C7D-D51B-42FD-A9B1-F4D2381F0EAE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 17:58:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: Cc: Benas IML , PHP Internals List To: Jakob Givoni References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Avoid ending up in Spam From: ben@benramsey.com (Ben Ramsey) --Apple-Mail=_50531C7D-D51B-42FD-A9B1-F4D2381F0EAE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On May 29, 2020, at 17:34, Jakob Givoni wrote: >=20 > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:07 AM Benas IML = wrote: >>=20 >> Here's a quote from Ben Ramsey that basically sums up the problem: >>=20 >>> This appears to be happening due to DMARC rules on the domains of = the senders. >>> I had the same thing happen to my emails, so I had to relax my DMARC = rules. If >>> your rules are set too strict, servers see the =46rom address coming = from a >>> server not authorized by the domain, so it gets quarantined. >>=20 >=20 > Shouldn't I just be able to add lists.php.net or something to my SPF > record for my domain then? That might work. I haven=E2=80=99t tried it. I=E2=80=99ll try to look = into it next week and see what I can figure out. Cheers, Ben --Apple-Mail=_50531C7D-D51B-42FD-A9B1-F4D2381F0EAE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHQEAREIAB0WIQToXQMR3fpbrPOmEOewLZeYnIwHGwUCXtGTlgAKCRCwLZeYnIwH GzMeAPQPqWu/hRVAgo2Lyt/QAOzn8+BIBNuY08NUHlzsOau2AP99UyzrL9U0uWOw Jfahxzh5IOY4IXBFbg4X2NFCHD8Ucg== =VSGJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_50531C7D-D51B-42FD-A9B1-F4D2381F0EAE--