Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110236 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 19353 invoked from network); 21 May 2020 17:34:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 May 2020 17:34:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B111804FD for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 09:13:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-lf1-f42.google.com (mail-lf1-f42.google.com [209.85.167.42]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 09:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f42.google.com with SMTP id a4so4743309lfh.12 for ; Thu, 21 May 2020 09:13:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=i02rgPxxipNPGqxw676a7xdEhhfU5htoaKJfW6Zh+wk=; b=o5/k7HHN2ofBi/b57o+APpeVISDhOmUKN+92w25t0AVNt+frIzxyCCSM9mG4ueAK59 k0TE6chcGriel+77bvVMSYcuFSZkjt4qaPu3M7zhaQe2puaVQefH0JHFiGAazAn0Ifo9 VepZgAs+DyxBPU/5MDIugdNPpmcH5dnxixo1Ohir4Z4GKSaN6p1MOOUEJUEIDgP7SPtg yb+AalSZoVqIFUk9OYwUsZpZga0LGHn2gqQZuuqyA9Kay6Mn81gbGQHD8a9u2FQydayn WOh/JtQwM0HhZrU5WENvp/eDMmdKx8XhpqtgKsFcPpAPGrbqcG/QzFHIowzMyLZKMwq/ lQ8g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=i02rgPxxipNPGqxw676a7xdEhhfU5htoaKJfW6Zh+wk=; b=dG6EsE+a4Hv2hfGV0NOu9ShELpQCbE2L3TWzGomoEbzVzs+PsQRgGhMMpEDwUn7DTY yBNwakjDo9MTOTUA7MlPHCahx045EfNsFYUzKjc0yGGhL8udj/fjmqr1rzCyuSkBP4F+ sgtFW7nzNHGA+WI6QY/WLYgYS4kjctLRtBPSvjeb9lziZKN5FfXH0hPiDfh6IGWDhUD8 kgzTJfTs938SaJBXVy/FFvCKO6lwQ8hapeWiv9qnL1Yqk8QZNFqSoLDZgq+0Bwub5ZRO +gsooQVkCpyYQzlK/5kUQEF2Y/Q1Wyt8LoD0cdIrdcuE/aZZhTXBtAt8KZIare9JXua1 f2Sg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530lnjtWcIHxQfu3lrLvBv4N3U8ZD3EZm07CnBxFC6kvsjJR2H/g 0HlzssHOaKammd5HF7eRdKx3IukYG6p+03dTnG8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx6zFPVVLdEXyWwOu1wqL5zvzVwWqnSGOIlTApf/4+OMSHwZ+NJRCLnQyrqtXIBv2d3CrysI18jTzPOH6nR4yA= X-Received: by 2002:a19:642:: with SMTP id 63mr5390870lfg.173.1590077621725; Thu, 21 May 2020 09:13:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 18:13:25 +0200 Message-ID: To: Gabriel Caruso Cc: PHP Internals , Sara Golemon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ceeee405a62acb7d" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [PHP-8.0] First alpha coming in 4 weeks From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --000000000000ceeee405a62acb7d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 6:02 PM Gabriel Caruso wrote: > Hello internals, > > > This is a message from your Release Managers reminding you that PHP 8's > first alpha is happening in 4 weeks. > > You can follow PHP's 8 schedule on https://wiki.php.net/todo/php80. > > > I'd like to remind you as well that Feature Freeze is scheduled to happen > on Tuesday, July 28th, 2020, at 24:00 UTC. > > After Feature Freeze, no more changes to APIs, ABIs, and internal > structures are allowed, unless agreed upon by internals, and the Release > Managers. > > Anything after that needs to wait until the next version (8.1), or the next > major version (9.0) if you are breaking any backward compatibility. > > > Please make sure to start the voting for RFCs by July 13th, so they can > make it into PHP 8 (if approved, of course). > Thanks for the reminder Gabriel! One small correction: As the name suggests, feature freeze is the time by when all new features should land. It serves primarily as a cutoff for RFCs. However, it is *not* the ABI freeze. Internal API/ABI changes are still allowed after feature freeze, without need for approval beyond the usual review. ABI freeze will occur at a later date (IIRC usually around the start of the RC phase). Regards, Nikita --000000000000ceeee405a62acb7d--