Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:110099 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95780 invoked from network); 9 May 2020 19:00:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 9 May 2020 19:00:39 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306481804C2 for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 10:36:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS2639 136.143.188.0/24 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from sender4-op-o11.zoho.com (sender4-op-o11.zoho.com [136.143.188.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 10:36:37 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1589045796; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=RVGj7w4bZ/E8oZ8BFExp2bynL9jVFLW3bowX501AYsNe+wVIJaJtm3hb729R5oXIp5GD1Ig6E0uJlzVCIEUdajrkjPNI9Ed/UdtGJNywQAUARev4WwjbQ5JSXRv9bSoSMhSljnAhMBRDzWvzjHqVaRIRomFEiN6SqHMPu6hKMDw= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1589045796; h=Content-Type:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=+zGOvKuhWBpGqkIVnVCZolGRrCZ8YMEPPMoIzAdq+IA=; b=aqBWvId4FsEDpmd7v6ZLGjT2PW0B9tYCadRPS0+e0MLLmbhKiPA4j5ZvvSnIsJEx8PemLdvpLmKKoyd9bj9jXnIqJJCgqyccmB4KKmYBGbQ9B0u5Fp1Qa6iUjz+mXzRaUMZmIGrQmpEd5gtTKEEy7dn3th43ioF3Fe8JgtpxCWQ= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=manuelcanga.dev; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=php@manuelcanga.dev; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1589045796; s=zoho; d=manuelcanga.dev; i=php@manuelcanga.dev; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+zGOvKuhWBpGqkIVnVCZolGRrCZ8YMEPPMoIzAdq+IA=; b=VK0pDr2PxhfWdMVaEXlfyOsTZ1XvjOQ+k0fOUIYV3um3WnuJHbYggR1+J8l/4T/t 5MmcCEs+pjW+KJkOgDNK8ovxlddL5sGTI72VPIGoQ41W+f7me+b4rKOK7mqjXL04S6s mII9jRrsJzqfb8273ifi+7vd84hnOJqMbf/U7Uts= Received: from mail.zoho.com by mx.zohomail.com with SMTP id 158904576389376.59259113977225; Sat, 9 May 2020 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 19:36:03 +0200 To: "G. P. B." Cc: "Internals" Message-ID: <171fa8204e1.fa0f2f24608343.3083806222101729833@manuelcanga.dev> In-Reply-To: References: <171dee3baf3.bef5753260554.3262181919550021853@manuelcanga.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1948343_1164652674.1589045757154" Importance: Medium User-Agent: Zoho Mail X-Mailer: Zoho Mail Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Keep type of reference params From: php@manuelcanga.dev (Manuel Canga) ------=_Part_1948343_1164652674.1589045757154 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---- En vie, 08 may 2020 12:37:29 +0200 G. P. B. = escribi=C3=B3 ---- I think everyone can agree this is useful. But the issue here is the implem= entation. Because from what I know PHP's references are a special kind of pain in the= engine. That's why the common wisdom is to use references in PHP as least as possib= le. And IIRC what you are trying to achieve would need a major overhaul of how = references work and someone who wanted to tackle this would have done it on their own = and propose an RFC at the same time. So sadly unless something semi-concrete shows up, I'm considering this a pi= pe dream. But I'd gladly be shown otherwise. Hi, George. Thanks for your opinion. Nikita porposed a RFC in order to improve refences( https://wiki.php.net/rf= c/explicit_send_by_ref, links thanks to Rowan ). Maybe, he wants to code this. Regards -- Manuel Canga, ------=_Part_1948343_1164652674.1589045757154--