Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:10994 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4354 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Jul 2004 22:20:05 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4330 invoked by uid 1007); 8 Jul 2004 22:20:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20040708222005.4329.qmail@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 18:19:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.1 (Windows/20040626) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040707203931.02fa6200@mail.ionzoft.com> <40ED64A0.7050305@cschneid.com> <20040708151952.92187.qmail@pb1.pair.com> <20040708215205.23281.qmail@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 130.58.81.153 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] what happened to that new isset() like language From: contact_marcos@yahoo.es (Marc Richards) Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Marc Richards wrote: > >>Does it? There are other similar constructs that don't e.g. +=, $a ? $b >>: $c, .=; > > > These have roots in other languages and as such have a familiarity to > them. ?: would be a brand new operator nobody has seen before and one > that looks a lot like the ternary operator which everyone knows about. > We can always create a name for the construct (in the same way the ternary statement has a name) and properly document it. If it becomes useful and popular, people will start calling it that. Proper documentation doesn't require an actual function name. >>I think that part of the reason that these things are so terse is >>because if would defeat the whole point to use a function name; The aim >>is to be concise. > > > No, the aim is not conciseness. That has never been PHP's goal. The aim > is clarity. > I wasn't saying it was a PHP goal, I was it is the goal of certain constructs like += or .= Marc