Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:10993 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43702 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Jul 2004 21:57:19 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43667 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2004 21:57:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO colo.lerdorf.com) (66.198.51.121) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Jul 2004 21:57:19 -0000 Received: from rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com (rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.233.18]) by colo.lerdorf.com (8.12.11/8.12.11/Debian-5) with ESMTP id i68LvI4I015630; Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:57:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:57:13 -0700 (PDT) X-X-Sender: rasmus@thinkpad.lerdorf.com To: Marc Richards cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <20040708215205.23281.qmail@pb1.pair.com> Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20040707203931.02fa6200@mail.ionzoft.com> <40ED64A0.7050305@cschneid.com> <20040708151952.92187.qmail@pb1.pair.com> <20040708215205.23281.qmail@pb1.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on colo Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] what happened to that new isset() like language From: rasmus@php.net (Rasmus Lerdorf) On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Marc Richards wrote: > Does it? There are other similar constructs that don't e.g. +=, $a ? $b > : $c, .=; These have roots in other languages and as such have a familiarity to them. ?: would be a brand new operator nobody has seen before and one that looks a lot like the ternary operator which everyone knows about. > I think that part of the reason that these things are so terse is > because if would defeat the whole point to use a function name; The aim > is to be concise. No, the aim is not conciseness. That has never been PHP's goal. The aim is clarity. -Rasmus