Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109863 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 36125 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2020 23:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2020 23:32:46 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B708D1804CA for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-wm1-f48.google.com (mail-wm1-f48.google.com [209.85.128.48]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm1-f48.google.com with SMTP id e26so574806wmk.5 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:05:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=lQONz6fZsCvUNQm1Cb6dnr/c4kBeZfj6wNRcZpuwrQg=; b=clr8uTcZew/00jZHVR6Z70125F2xlBg2tjwmW4uneKnikoO6Vshbpz8V8zfwWUNgB9 +7SCRcWvEgtGgd8vtjMmNbYMmmpMMvMPGBzqT8gmizGVf17qgjONsvDJWvZgXpXRAn6s Lg8iO1B/RxQzbNsJQMxoJRugJP7d4+JLz3m70ueDbXjgE8ylD8ymRgcNvTps46I25Jl7 vtanXDTnqoQQgJEA6XwJr6qkiazJ1CqIeZxWDpVU9gghL5VwDpnZQgNDCypG9wN9dt1f EQDXuDLQEg41watr72iBauRR8c7bKGjzG3Tz4yVrU9t7MMrcRTbToMrIYEMlVaArHiBX dabw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=lQONz6fZsCvUNQm1Cb6dnr/c4kBeZfj6wNRcZpuwrQg=; b=riMdZrp0cMLnGLgVO+ZdT2aXBAa3hEMNvUBdAXIZerP1EOHR2wLR06JpkkrLH9CdYT 6atT4xl9BJw1xdi+FvddZkw4tZKeaY9tzseCY/2hITk4HqmiYiPAs2rXJcOenapIwPFf JNkcXsJ5bD8ZOhOPBqrsMZROJozBK9x1ICtVODa0nsZAnCytGToHpD/GiIIoQDzVHJgV SnsCoDXetEEYUsB93PxY737/qvJ1SdeMbEU/fmQRdEZ2KsFehPx/kmU7DiYs0AgLnFGh W7brqzq9gRi8uEkC0IOuk3N9U1aRysHV5LLyj2WGkOhdLhCA++q4ldkRBWgJbDJ9P3dY Tasg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PublScqzk+RIbyZ5c3/AQfSUI5wN5ea5LvaQKuGA7oIlUwRD34DT i55JLBgTv7o/hTkikz25EzzVwRlh X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypI9i+MUhLYEU/ko1cG+fKNaTliZ8QGaU0vpkVk5niengQ7qlMBQn+zNYahpVUPgWV31Y2yeFg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c118:: with SMTP id w24mr825565wmi.173.1588025142233; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (cpc84253-brig22-2-0-cust114.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.108.141.115]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r18sm19807960wrj.70.2020.04.27.15.05.41 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) To: PHP internals References: <5ea5e72d.1c69fb81.ecd6b.8d05SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <29bd50e0-51d5-e8a1-10c4-bf89d42124c3@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:05:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP Namespace Policy From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Tommins) On 27/04/2020 22:40, Mike Schinkel wrote: > How about a simply policy: Newer things go in, older ones stay out? > > Check the docs to see which is which if you are unsure, or just let your IDE auto-complete for you. So you'd be happy with PHP\str_contains and \str_replace next to each other indefinitely? Or, more in line with your proposal, a hypothetical PHP\Iterators\FractallyAwesomeIterator next to \InifiniteIterator, \LimitIterator, etc? Or did you have some stronger definition of "newer things" in mind? I don't really see what such an arbitrary split would gain us, other than a lot of confusion. Importantly, it wouldn't be following the lead of the other languages and frameworks you mentioned, which was the specific point I was responding to. Regards, -- Rowan Tommins (né Collins) [IMSoP]