Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109862 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32186 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2020 23:07:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2020 23:07:23 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2D01804E2 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:40:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f172.google.com (mail-qk1-f172.google.com [209.85.222.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f172.google.com with SMTP id g74so19708862qke.13 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:40:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=MHqHfVJ0KmAbJ7jcF4S3HQrLnuts0GoV35WagBNwIAQ=; b=Aq+FkyB26DAzI++XwtGFJ1kny6K8nAxRjKM7r1YkMYcRxFYYMs/5NJt8g3Fp1jJLf8 CKvsIwwS/p8arFJSbtrqHUGNb1xjCQSYsj9k0/EpFagZL/Kmcq3UcBMsGSGrMjNP6qje iEXYws+BILmigfMQKXxsQY+ss6ods6Pkgb3mPQ0WaW4oDdPlcH3ur9haMf08z0ePu32B QQJx4YdldNBTCjs5qaJ0jfVqF0IP7GDWp85N198g9w9SyIeBp1TDwk5/t79R4AkbjoQu zhI0uOE8ocNBDyxZISwb/qVnKstGfDNt/zQUYVvbjUog6PHIt4BOtVCaIho15QzuT5WJ 1rJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=MHqHfVJ0KmAbJ7jcF4S3HQrLnuts0GoV35WagBNwIAQ=; b=MdcGZzUaVBsS2fp/p0W3GVU9lTKLnrydqXAzC+r2qmATMXVvMd+MH8V91cTK83581a IUKY8vqcy/a79xG5ADd1Vj0A3fy3BpWjm1CMNIY/jLdPKSfMXys/Po3r5118VGpcdwFU 2G6yn+f5eLeaXvRu2+pKyyJnf3UWpYBKL+FN2nsc2wGMwxONJIueS9bIbBue7Wu8eXMs gSa+R9GxTJuPGbVQ5UGd6uhGTRojNC/R88A2vUJ4LiB6NxJ1n6aR3FINfHwvyPkrkgtB oofF1gJMdHeWYX1CLGFuWJFW3YJvBiCCaSxvwaKudpqgVsNWmnmkDtuV8IEuXjkfkQ6T pjPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZhayiINFhDn9qdQ63nYGBtJ/iZhDWttoafyE27MvxOVvFPb5Ky bgikbsSqmHMjbzFF5crlMhr+bA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ9TRYy3c4e+3ENJFW1fp8XvkoVGN4WNO43EM0KO5AiO1/7Ie6yWp2PTGQ6VDyk8h3OwELGBw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:5c81:: with SMTP id q123mr22854330qkb.136.1588023621181; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:c0:c680:5cc0:25be:5fd7:5561:ee88? ([2601:c0:c680:5cc0:25be:5fd7:5561:ee88]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d74sm6892936qkc.106.2020.04.27.14.40.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 17:40:17 -0400 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <5ea5e72d.1c69fb81.ecd6b.8d05SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> To: Rowan Tommins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP Namespace Policy From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Apr 27, 2020, at 4:25 AM, Rowan Tommins = wrote: >=20 > To me, the answer to that is quite simple: we have several hundred > functions, and several dozen classes and interfaces, which are not in = such > a namespace; and we have millions of lines of code out in the world = using > them. So ... we need a consistent policy on what goes in > and what stays out.=20 How about a simply policy: Newer things go in, older ones stay out? =20 Check the docs to see which is which if you are unsure, or just let your = IDE auto-complete for you. -Mike=