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To: Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE] Attributes v2 RFC Vote is open
From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn)

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On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 22:36, Marco Pivetta <ocramius@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Andrea,
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 23:25 Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have opened the vote on the Attributes v2 RFC. The voting will be
> open
> > > until two weeks from now, May 4th 2020, noon UTC.
> > >
> > > RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/attributes_v2


I know that I'm "too late" to be making suggestions, but I would like to see
a new "@@" operator over the proposed <<...>> or @:.

While it is possible (!!) that some code is already using a double
@-operator
in a way that would conflict, I'd posit that it is a reasonable BC break in
return
for a subjectively nicer (for want of a better word) attribute operator.

Nikita and Sara shared similar grumblings in unofficial channels [1] [2].

However, there is something to be said for just deciding on *anything* and
rolling forward with it.

[1] https://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/11/conversation/at-at-01
    and https://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/11/conversation/at-at-02
[2]
https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/g4psl5/rfc_attributes_vote_is_open_now/fnz97fk/


>
> > >
> > > Thank you everyone for taking part in the detailed discussion.
> > >
> > > greetings
> > > Benjamin
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for putting this to a vote. I remember I had some comments about
> > autoloading behaviour and you changed the behaviour in the RFC, but I
> > didn't get around to reading it again. I am concerned though that it
> > doesn't seem to say anymore when autoloading happens, if at all? Can
> > that be clarified?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andrea
> >
>
> From my review of the tests, autoloading occurs when an object is being
> requested (via `newInstance()` call on a reflection attribute).
>
> Until then, the same semantics as the `::class` pseudo-constant apply.
>
> >
>

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