Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109739 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96951 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2020 06:58:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2020 06:58:18 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8F91804CE for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:29:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f176.google.com (mail-qk1-f176.google.com [209.85.222.176]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f176.google.com with SMTP id b62so13355832qkf.6 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:29:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=apuw7qBjYnahu7IiNSsQ5LowP7Xqomtb6UkHyifvhHo=; b=jDIFV8VxWYk4kfpVXM8/HnPxP4RNm4z7/dbg45/ciuYpvduGkbuaeXKFbuurKoMyY/ BsgBcim/fYmQXqrd8x3BCNh7PbpHxNFx2YpPnIX/+W53AO/B4iTm/mFzL/uB6TeehXRU rtZ+rPp5qKLesoHG3YYCEPRn+qkqZPo3yOcjwZpGABcco/xFW5g9IxBoE5YIqxRVJlld 8mvFJ60fQ3uNl+jurmYCz2zldoAOPqlL6RnOspGyjaRKwvwV2+wKinAjQwdnupB/2bx2 JA/7XBt8hniOtEa1Yyj+5FXhfqqpiDrdSJFTeJDvXugJNsk6dI4bQTnwHW1sZnNBVy6w ICQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=apuw7qBjYnahu7IiNSsQ5LowP7Xqomtb6UkHyifvhHo=; b=Ly2wMpOillRRK4RgRBuWIb00o45dKt4Q2+dcqT3HJPIFOsTVo+ON/aETksoZbCoHEE B7q2kJs4QcmzkDE/IZdrTtq+C9jTRcZ+zQlDFE1ccXDQCAKadWfWqEmFdGyX9iKUhz90 r9ZTNIZGut6fM9bBao7/5757uHiikQNGo9atzqcVKnu8VujHYlAIU7c8zB0+/CdFrqTf WBcG7C1UAbOkUUNdVrBqsNiB3wkmDDQEq2Yj6ncC88vMagVjlda57NfDKQLYasH3t3mV 0ASTQoU1VsWDIjEl/Lo309qqCHgtMvY11TNF0Gf1RXrA54zHoaXfmIxNGRKDV3V5W9/5 LX/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZnxQtRkLvBEDHRkpBK81s2nc4SDbrPimZ+qFNYrCyRotaDj80o QxXW8UKP390Rztc/R43Dbc91Wgo/Zws= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLXrpLU51sTp4rsR2bGfu01yseANDFy3f7lJGOmuRW71FvgEFgUSFMq2KKQwtQSsMXQ1ojhzQ== X-Received: by 2002:a37:6f81:: with SMTP id k123mr19238531qkc.432.1587446971235; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:c0:c680:5cc0:a515:9106:2ba1:1f2a? ([2601:c0:c680:5cc0:a515:9106:2ba1:1f2a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t75sm1158032qke.127.2020.04.20.22.29.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Apr 2020 22:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 01:29:27 -0400 Cc: PHP Internals List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Benjamin Eberlei X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) I have been wondering for a while why PHP does not officially recognize = a \PHP namespace. The inconsistency people have mentioned feels like a fair tradeoff for = allowing new core classes to be cleanly-named and easier to understand. And a \PHP namespace would allow RFCs to never need worry about = conflicting with userland class names again. =20 The one thing I would ask the authors:=20 - Why limit it to "tightly coupled to the PHP engine?"=20 - Why not just say "any new core classes that are approved to use it?" After all, sometimes a namespace is just a namespace. Seems like a = winner to me. -Mike=