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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 21:39:06 +0200
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To: Marcio Almada <marcio.web2@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] PHP Namespace in core
From: george.banyard@gmail.com ("G. P. B.")
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On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 18:39, Marcio Almada <marcio.web2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi internals,
> >
> > I hope you're doing well.
> >
> > I'd like to announce the PHP Namespace in core RFC for discussion.
> > The RFC is authored by me together with George Peter Banyard and it's
> > purpose
> > is nothing more like to allow the use of PHP Namespace in the core.
> >
> > The RFC is described at https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php-namespace-in-core
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Micha=C5=82 Brzuchalski
>
> Hello,
>
> Even though I'm fond to the idea of languages having the official
> stdlib contained
> into a single space, there seems to be no practicality on a \PHP namespac=
e
> usage
> at this point IMMO.
>
> We would be in a situation where things are either mixed in and out
> the new namespace
> - Should I `use function PHP\{json_encode, json_decode}` or was it in
> the root??? - or
> everything that already exists must first receive an alias into this
> new namespace, to allow
> consistency... but then there would probably be no plans ever to
> actually move existing stuff
> into the new prefix in the future.
>
> With the lack of a feasible roadmap, I'd rather vote on doing nothing for
> now :/
>
> Thanks,
> M=C3=A1rcio
>
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As mentioned by Michal, JSON is not a core engine extension, you can even
compile a version of PHP without JSON support therefore compared to the
parallel discussion this extension would not be included in the PHP
namespace.
Best regards
George P. Banyard
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