Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109267 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13763 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2020 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2020 12:28:53 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B051804C6 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 03:53:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8560 212.227.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 03:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1585047191; bh=ndLvoEU6ZxpNWMrEnLIWemA8LlobrdVkUqJb7mten9E=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AQXl0qekrKzuoAuT79gsgPtxel8KLsf1mfs1nkgn1eeU/5rn75NDAgVqcKhhYxYsX M6htf6/w9roFbEEmSwMx6pmaxIOB4uW20hj4s9TtWmikLGY5pZSkAn/LfTn/Gjwo+c Rl+pqa3YRjZBFKM3PQTM2rtsS9fxtBiHeICIk7Hc= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([84.179.237.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N2V4J-1jOQsC2qkB-013vIr; Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:53:11 +0100 To: Lynn , =?UTF-8?B?TcOhdMOpIEtvY3Npcw==?= Cc: PHP Internals List References: Message-ID: <33bafb73-b5d5-0f61-6beb-440d39e4caee@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:53:11 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:d4njISJmCZY7JXUf0ppJCTSiWiDAdhm8BK96UYoR+xgFnuNYPX+ AieFg61MbQak+TPGpuS2DdXmqYRwsNHra6anc8HTKDjzx2bncwKvy/yh4QudafDkyX7bYBX x5dOW2gYR1iQ8rU4gL4vgUhTKxWHyg9/uJP648aTlUGB2B+xUfUdlDfmMZHosgyPPCwNlvo Gauk/u6FyN3+srgulPTLA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:faDKOGTjSdc=:i8xo6UifWU8eDUWIHRMaa1 Zz4SocI4LZ4iP/eWZwkn6u+1mCBQJDWje1qHYkaT97CEL7cTcuPmvhl5CCRWcGeDZF7XRyxrX 9JJE6BbfeDMWBasOc0YlrDuyDOOrt/iJYTjYFQ1JaTu75l14qHuIt2/vpHTEKnqFTvEe77Dto u9VB9d379qL2TsUp/Jj416jxKhRDv7jvLUaSsSzRsoohP136zJh/T4uky43M6o83fo1yppx4B +GI0nk/2iYgTiOAMQ94mKYfQBOC9109R27GM1LVWFLH5yBHhOKvuKejTkzWF7f1x9gm78Cg77 34GOX8mXOD0Toq+OH0uBvd+WD1XPmNRinTJjKtKK2axbUJp8VzWUpI0kyZW5kdC+yYi7hoLgB qh7P7cuycLgTUCgNkECKWVCOHcvz/PRVV06711RRyYbuapfGAlsg+F+1wQZHKUW8tsCA/hQEc /uQoJ3nnE5DVdFVtabNtBobgt0WrMC6ALKKjJtbU23M9+USso0fy5xzujL6z1yESYF5+iRVxI vT9Wynlbm5u8AqdfvI2H51w1V/ttQfKZAREO0WwFA2cIPUz8E9VztFxCSPuw4xEyfxwSbr6/J toN2qRTWp/GR6pqJdcOMdqrQ/kLEJL88bOdnQdb14qNnsErVzsCtqFzltccSBMoqRgRlBpEuX MS0zlevQ8uRDGVXb1/4mplPEUyD0+HzMD3bySWiq9QzZ1WWqeO46zydC3eZbcokVHsUuWu+Rs 5jlWH+7h1QyZEUumlLpCm7pS3JnDb8WPpV0tIB6bPFfF5gTMKsANSJdEaekikBeiFBrm+DSkq Q9OY645YiwyrRPGMo8WUrVjwmwtwMXIeZeW3zFukzVXV4rS49lCpThK1tqD9SvJacWgrzMolt f3m6Qk1uNUaRPPRRzydRfRAFJNwednb6TwalPzWLfgP0kRIXQq9lZVJpWdjOflxJ2bHEM+i15 U5K9azFHq0vj7fJ4IuWoxXcFQqOcXRYn48MeLiJJ5cJt1IpR74tEbLW567EkhU50rqcqej3Rg MlYaObb0vZPLxW4zGQrwIVCv/jKuHkMohlUpj0NDebj+Spo0rlioODWCDO/NKDfACNZXB9MHf 8Az9yksMNRKq+QdBdvfOtvAdK3D7J5f0ocN4TpXr0UCMtu/JPv39ALjHpPZ7drCpIzKnTQXG/ aq4zob0ESSNzWRfceuYkQdryJ59/TLcnCz5pdFj5KDATpO4KXEt/CnI2Q0GBw0vbWU6T03KiZ HeYMaEONFxxzCiKPf Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Locale-independent float to string cast From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 24.03.2020 at 11:03, Lynn wrote: >> Outputting floats as strings in locales which change the decimal >> separator will have a slightly different output. In our opinion, the >> backward compatibility break won't be serious in practice > > In my opinion, this will be huge. I can't trace back where the thousands= of > possible conversions are used in legacy software. There's a variety of > custom format functions, sprintf implementations, string casts, and > number_format usages. Would it be possible to trigger a warning or > deprecation when using a locale that would have a different result from > what the new result will be? If I'd use a locale that results in `3.5`, = I > don't need a warning. If I use a locale that results in `3,5`, I would l= ike > to see a warning of sorts so I can fix this before untested legacy code > will seriously break data exports. It would certainly be *possible* to raise a warning/notice if a (non SCCP optimized) float to string conversion would have different results. This would have a (small) performance impact though, so I'd would rather avoid enforcing it (i.e. maybe temporarily introduce an INI directive for this purpose). =2D- Christoph M. Becker