Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109130 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81319 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2020 23:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2020 23:30:04 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A112E1804C5 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:53:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8560 212.227.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 14:53:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1584568374; bh=CaUWVixDzseUtoW7F3kCLLnYaKs+eyIjyznu9w3xUM8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=TNs6MGpj8uf7/Z8B9GaPjIAvE/aYbhk5aosq89cxjQfXPDwfpNxlCag+Q1QYtxW+W mgTwncztZS9Wx/lXhNMEgGIupvWhSHjQ0Lt+ZRa6kQpDqYJXLQeL+qEbpS8vohrzvR rPwuBAjB/hVeeIVRMK4VIItyKW9OnEuta7k68zwo= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([84.179.237.201]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MFbRm-1j4FgG2Zuo-00HAcN; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 22:52:54 +0100 To: Mike Schinkel Cc: Nikita Popov , Jakob Givoni , PHP Internals References: <14383D05-EA33-4CD2-9648-40AA29A837A5@newclarity.net> <70d0e790-56b3-0544-cc22-3b4c40a29631@gmx.de> <69343F6E-6A1B-4EE9-B2DB-9735AA18D650@newclarity.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 22:52:51 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <69343F6E-6A1B-4EE9-B2DB-9735AA18D650@newclarity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Y/ByOAW4O6DSelbafXSb9pW0Jfd7XoeSaha3Z2uNXWYyVlDXJiq hU3OQAmn+pSSmLtBeBpqCAJYGp42KFYSMsz1npjXgsdof2UnJG8vsdCDhAGD6JFs4wywy+M eXW7POfhExY2fZjagGNnNQpKN5MjZFPGk9039QGpN7PqzRVhv/TC8V5ZoOwt4v+g53d4O5/ 0m93vXEpAxP62Ogizc5kQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Q4x55t0zXSQ=:EV6WTEJI+LtrV4ryMgvzaC Qb/lcTiHS4Ht0AYj6LeL0B86KPm1/tsMGiy6w11c/J6xALUU1vN0KPcLCDSzBNWqRxPfz8XiH PwaH86Ou96K7D8O+ywV+GmEwTelg1OrpmCsHduj7Rv2OiK2JjW5eoya0eqca11X2GdiWrlQ/R /mW27pxpjYds+AlMeI6zbAPANEWkz4HocC/74jJOCl2GrqDlPZa70KQG6p/7oWNPOi3/GF565 Tge4u2hgdjU97K4xEAukQ6AXldnTVz/yJ7dggxtO8CaMURRj5hrgzQEJWMSsMT75CvOTZJgph LlbuL4tI88ovI699VFNtEoZx//d+gvnmbo3ZlhLu9yE36458amrQO/dEFc7f0gLlQzNBFKhsk eHNABT9GmOne3HdV+a40SeRGMD5HEnbCxpWU6raRNQ5rJ8PQOgj0YFtfdVQkxhu0fEM4iQ9O4 6WG6erAa8rctbw2XJYeKv9OBaFr7GgySmxoCJVt/xPWTJ6ZxmfoEQfnfLiVwbJh+vU4zT8kFK fgmcaWHCZ4b7iyXWHUNioZ2Cc3S2GJtIBRG6H74Ige5yguld8TLztadU36teBOBanvs9cWNL8 YC58TBqKMz9MHYtlJjqbgZMGRUaPF0wRTxFU4F8CGasSzoUugEsOS9q/2NW+osC6KFoo/pHok 7GgaB25X2wlI3lpHF+SnTviwTkKXUj44AwQ5Vlw0yVGs8aX0nYu5aTRcfwdLlq6+b0bXOvrjN O0/spJkyXFgveNNrOAua6DNeG8q5lfY/+8JSJibKFMCPS82Np5zINlB8trQdITMXafgpMSjGa KudSSIoyev2bLGVLH6r2HjBpkyXZziRHMrdMMYF/8OZ0Yi9YRXW3XSBnty/CFzCrvFGsGqv2E 6ziS5b+OyBoSxDXcN3aFUKFoS00MCjqBc4EW7kBxjJGpoI9HVDZMICOcSSMpYLFjDNyCwAODh UNqGJ8pINpj4pCfC0lBzHJjXy+2Rilw7eHQ1zxwZ8Bbb87zfeaTgefEr5X1Izcb2slT05aglA Q+EQNzKwoTkCGkj3BexYunTktmpLbkSLjIP78ucFbwCXEjmKSvuxrDqROdQjJ/JkDYu5FK9Fs fzgF1832XtGxQzpHSBi+cCajYRLJVES8MvwTTPHcMlscz5O+tMdOyLMyZCLkPg2Ym6X2cEo+V eAQlSXdHJr/7f3Jm7hjK4ZcZbaWyi1Yol208pTL7E5/i/1/MTzv05aw814cOjyzrn96aeNRTZ yImSADpRpk4yVy4yl Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake? From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 17.03.2020 at 20:33, Mike Schinkel wrote: >> On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:44 AM, Christoph M. Becker wr= ote: >> >> On 17.03.2020 at 09:26, Nikita Popov wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel w= rote: >>>>> If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes tha= t >>>> choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >>>> >>>> Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: >>>> COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >>>> >>>> As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture >>>> reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, shoul= d >>>> it fail. >>>> It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote >>>> reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >>>> >>>> +1 on the idea from me! >>>> >>> >>> FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the >>> consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if som= eone >>> actually implements it. >>> >>> For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has= been >>> a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) >> >> If anybody wants to take a stab at this, patching the doodle plugin[1] >> would be the way to go. >> >> [1] >> > > Ah, I see. So set up https://github.com/php/web-wiki locally and I'd ha= ve what I need? It might work to install a plain DokuWiki, and to put the repo contents on top. Otherwise, see . =2D- Christoph M. Becker