Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109112 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41485 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2020 21:12:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2020 21:12:47 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5181804DF for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com (mail-qk1-f180.google.com [209.85.222.180]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id t17so12891510qkm.6 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:35:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ukqr7lkEC+9Ij5e6gjtfJPJKtw094kQCuNVmFot2lBE=; b=ywR78ONKiEwh3lAVo8VM7XmufkqlZYBUEI9XfG0BR0jNoiAmdR1F+8fNYFUznaYRGb 6X4W395YlBQ7ZzFvAj1TFkdZtLoMGhvRQOeuUOIgHWI14whQfha46YXpZ9jCj/mP0iGz fBlZvWg4jgHeikhhhXI4jbiESZnfECyOCpeUMM78nhf60jdrlZnOfAkpCYD29ZUkoofK qrCAJGNcWDox468yv6nS1JdIeWtg/ImUQXe/48/qHeQUkqi2F231vrvXHu/tdP7E0fg8 M/ADNkA4Jy+1yCI+2G7rqwfqWXrktj2OR+PV9pHuD0ikGp2B6wurjJsiUsYeuI0rBgis zFJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=Ukqr7lkEC+9Ij5e6gjtfJPJKtw094kQCuNVmFot2lBE=; b=fXrMgZg9/yezb5D7ln/iJuxYy6VG2COHz99bhJeD9uRIfJwW5EtRcZIR2oSDJHytit tl9/bU7d6gmm0BBtFe3fmn6E6eY/tqyyWkd3omELXIfaQ0OIOcLu6NxkdEfQpTapbLCz G5HXW3dzZQyhlGcNS4ELIFEBy1como8Slznj5XxQXC3wEe5OcRsjLRqCQEWb4K2hIzqP O7jnX95YZUHhyIjvnHHeL+azK6UC/Cv1dgUOa+ndMdbxA77A4GCSgZ5Uys9B3mzvV5/W gqT1PCLGv5n777FR+Dr5lYs2hrQDysY8xMQeqCRS9XTov3mzCg3WOda1yctu9EH7703j 5k2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ1OOcRnhGtKDTT2qKLzgFAEz3AMQ1+OW9xNQtO8e8GLG5R+eXHl pS+n1Y6Nw85vLcgzA8iHlUjsAofCgvg+Sw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvyRyrE2zMZ9PQX8Ocnpqif7ypzGpLz5xXZPI+stsq6nZGfa+mZtrsHxSe1S41c2JjJgZ23YQ== X-Received: by 2002:a37:490:: with SMTP id 138mr508389qke.378.1584473731065; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:c0:c680:5cc0:41ce:38c2:ca9:160a? ([2601:c0:c680:5cc0:41ce:38c2:ca9:160a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q26sm2411439qki.115.2020.03.17.12.35.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: <61BBEA2D-F215-4DD5-8753-DE7E1D5CC407@pmjones.io> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:35:29 -0400 Cc: PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <90ED5916-8054-4B15-AFD2-A48DE7625064@newclarity.net> References: <14383D05-EA33-4CD2-9648-40AA29A837A5@newclarity.net> <61BBEA2D-F215-4DD5-8753-DE7E1D5CC407@pmjones.io> To: "Paul M. Jones" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake? From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Paul M. Jones wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Mar 16, 2020, at 13:29, Mike Schinkel wrote: >>=20 >> Hi all, >>=20 >> It is a real shame that the PHP voting process has no way to capture = a concise description of why people voted against an RFC. > ... >> Would it be possible to add a feature when voting were people either = need to type in a one to two sentence reason why they voted "no" on a = proposal OR select from the reasons that others have already given when = voting down the specific RFC? =20 >=20 > I would be against making it a *requirement* but I sure would be happy = to see it as an *option*. Just curious if the "requirement" was only "you have to enter in = something" would that still be an issue for you? =20 It is not like we could reasonably validate that they entered something = intelligible. =20 They could just say "I don't like" and that would meet the = "requirement." > --=20 > Paul M. Jones > pmjones@pmjones.io > http://paul-m-jones.com >=20 > Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP > https://leanpub.com/mlaphp >=20 > Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP > https://leanpub.com/sn1php >=20 >=20 >=20