Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109110 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38593 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2020 21:09:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2020 21:09:31 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D238E1804B8 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qk1-f169.google.com (mail-qk1-f169.google.com [209.85.222.169]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id z25so29743212qkj.4 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:32:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=uZb7DisDiDAKhTD/+99E1CqXoWKejJiqpzFgU/n2teA=; b=02QI/IwqnxaRb5POjmEz8a5OgS1ttwqSgnniAzBPGQYDVbqFFxbKHCwt2VT0AM4m4p dQ2hfJ/HcTvHjdN8qUmlqqRznNiJx3QFUckLMBy7BX7ba+ErszwBF3L4VCvI3Rgtux+i xhW1MAmPmkzAQRMz6RVkD41kL7qGLo7U1g6FGH/boPxpKYCZDjw3eu9U9ZA3Et5v/yIb fwutjfEJNTbfmKZ6XwhyRghKSbmj9krQzG97rsnYHXf6a5EhvMS1x3FYCtOJgHuDL5dO b8ThI1tpIuM57x1aRP4lpboV+Tk4Cj3SY/2Ps0h6NvaEGCQnVSLngywk7Jy1RawCl3n1 BMaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=uZb7DisDiDAKhTD/+99E1CqXoWKejJiqpzFgU/n2teA=; b=mV/RniZ+mDRUjhUi5BuPtMdbAyOw9fZJ2Ba6v+JLmXNFg7KiiVySDsoqdiu3LbET3q h0wveNFPBmykiunaVvIUsfbS4vle9i2GqV+L+mv5tkXBXwlXdLMw3+eGV9EkZyTvug94 Yj5nOL3Y2lmWdrhzZFthKryFYCrNwBmSox2GmYMAGoimzbk58H8OkZAaXwWjXv8498D9 wYK2GTGpWdjHcb6p/gTGT1vIj91UnqwAraSpKlHfrp2/WiKhWZNekfBOVJq1Xz+jwuE3 HPdCaTgWLLi2Q152vWXUqJKzJ4SY6yiTeEQ5zV4O/SymNYzmwL/8bxHnL+5pnBpHbEPw wHQA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ1yLwsaJzx1Gmt6yY4QNl8LGNPQSkvTE25aUG34E/sqLR9nKXEx 11ny+woThb+cmdc+33dKYkPN7w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vs4LxRX+JnyNTuZXT0zKuiqFBU3RW1V1tjh3UQGsh8Pm9oWnHy+4Tn0LEAGeqmfqG+wkV3nwA== X-Received: by 2002:a37:a446:: with SMTP id n67mr500296qke.298.1584473531457; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:c0:c680:5cc0:41ce:38c2:ca9:160a? ([2601:c0:c680:5cc0:41ce:38c2:ca9:160a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c191sm2486003qkg.49.2020.03.17.12.32.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:32:08 -0400 Cc: Jakob Givoni , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <14383D05-EA33-4CD2-9648-40AA29A837A5@newclarity.net> To: Nikita Popov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake? From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Mar 17, 2020, at 4:26 AM, Nikita Popov = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel = wrote: > > If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes = that choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >=20 > Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: > COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >=20 > As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture > reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should > it fail. > It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote > reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >=20 > +1 on the idea from me! >=20 > FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the = consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if = someone actually implements it. >=20 > For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has = been a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) >=20 > Nikita Hi Nikita, What would be required to implement it? I assume it is in PHP code? = What access would be required? -Mike