Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:109096 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90956 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2020 10:22:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2020 10:22:11 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2461804B8 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:44:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8560 212.227.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:44:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1584434683; bh=MxufB2XfTu75SDpVu77KcFZ8N1ITT4MsdOy0lop5kc4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=iFYXjbhHkhFPWaZ0+Zxhd73+IU2WJJxuXqCXmBNUckgQoaaDWHvEJAW4j9VLPp+Bq SIK7vwCWU02ixnK+KHl5S73aTJuskRztRGeeRsy5q71MXVeh64t+uE1fZSetGqj4oZ LZOzw3iX8Mu85WgR9YQ19St2uenhzckiMBKL88CA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([79.222.41.175]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mf078-1jlXuL0Igc-00gYuk; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:44:43 +0100 To: Nikita Popov , Jakob Givoni Cc: Mike Schinkel , PHP Internals References: <14383D05-EA33-4CD2-9648-40AA29A837A5@newclarity.net> Message-ID: <70d0e790-56b3-0544-cc22-3b4c40a29631@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:44:43 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JFAy8j+4a6O0XKBT/+K8yzUZnTDkvqDgzhCud9DnvLfAH678HyX bN8DgEWrZOIl11ecvypXxRvCXdEmpmoxgKuT4L4dHST4YN2w8YClIqcHp8jtD6H7wCX5+cx nC8o97yaKoU18/XlKcdotw/TT0c/I9rMT3oegO612+5joiOMkGh2taEnPiWvBG0svPR8CYC 8v6SYaw4ZYJD8yMTC3TPQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3iC4HcQgGDU=:n5CqYGLlr7ymtk24/+YdEz Xqh+vtMcx2xbGMRzoNLXzIrXF9lU00yxP6h21PAwYCysjmblSYUQkfJUtoA17+4vkZ8pc6nNC cbr4V6zgsJCQhk5Y0JD6Sc50Do1LQdptnAUeOfDHsCl00w3KHjL6fneljSXm93pDEb5vTjIBq hh++0lYXTwAO/Y1nB8EAcWbBcT8qecxHMQWctwwkEC6ouoc5ajwWZonej34NwexsR39RwaEdb eVEvZqldZD+BbTDCsIJR4pL8/eZdnBlyiyFD/6COD2GKfLmGKxzARiJhJZb5rPF8PaE1pd0dp AgNnuAT5UpKiJ+3fEzKiqpKhxFIWHRHX7W7HqtnLFORN/m/vOe0NjRK6dbPTLDRDbpTe/+Myq B1uO9LCsDbX9m34kDAl67LMBjU+yI6h619QVP9liREMDmy8UknfcPX8TfuKxlCQI0n6t2RSUr 5cM0bArXYaBE9Qa72lNpuvlZ3LIOChZTM5/xVjtSQu/GJeyXt4Id12eI4aOR7wfQP/GCh6hVK L7vO4SxqxEgKkT62qJwj8MgsvHa7YayTwu6gW/RcbOwGQpZAiqTSFiUq5qVOX6GjHGTt3Q/Uc hXSdyV3zz10kFfSu9ZGtEsef9YtI/a1BCHRk9Q4DDEsjewiDT7AWrjieOlwwdJigM1qZWzaaj 1xgmVNNqUrswNwLUMTto5e6QFVdbd531WNW7ApDVGldeUtrbOsUbycnuLLTwjjDiM1fHtE7qx F3ylAoKrOWzWFovTQW/YM/XNlL6omZLy+qBjZdXB+rnHtGJKT9LUlfljA82nMK4D1vduf4Vcf /vsfK8HDt5Kt+PIef8eU5HLi3ALqc3as8InLIQYq/ZKmVtM6CVVgZQQv/3g0Gr5MNNgyFb15b ZnBunANbkWnWJgcUm7WTSPl08BDQEl3w5a2S9pCRWD8VrdN99BwmWXiS77ylEn5RpE6Hs2owF 7z1C5h8QzB8FDwdVT/5dGIXQIOsXmOcW2e3pWhCHKOdomVlHIvtqFlpKyLQDsBbFh+TJbi8rV i82Ig4clA6G0co1WW4ORJAFBNfAcNG4ThzfN/6XsnXeErRnZvSNzR/Pw88/ffhktiI3geZhby wDKs+zNiHmDETf79ZKebxDxM3G9zTe9mXUob5U/wquL1Czroe6cOaKbkyXki+8zPPIIlAHiQm D2CPr/gJ99bdDRHG1rbCwOAJfEMlsoDJuuGkr+v5sfoZ78Qa5g4JbN6A61wba7I1UIDN4cfg+ 9mdQ/PxTVAuzr1xn0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Capturing reasons for votes for historical sake? From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 17.03.2020 at 09:26, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:09 PM Jakob Givoni wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:29 PM Mike Schinkel wro= te: >>> If we had that we could list the reasons and the number of votes that >> choose those reasons on the RFC for historical purposes. >> >> Thanks Mike, exactly what I was thinking when I started writing RFC: >> COPA (https://wiki.php.net/rfc/compact-object-property-assignment)! >> >> As you can see in my "Voting" section, I had the idea to capture >> reasons for no-votes, to document it in the outcome of the RFC, should >> it fail. >> It would have saved my research quite a bit if I had had the no-vote >> reasons for the RFCs I reference at the bottom. >> >> +1 on the idea from me! >> > > FWIW this has been discussed a few times already, and I believe the > consensus is: We're happy to have *optional* reasons for votes, if someo= ne > actually implements it. > > For the number of times someone has brought this up on list, there has b= een > a distinct lack of volunteers for actually making it happen ;) If anybody wants to take a stab at this, patching the doodle plugin[1] would be the way to go. [1] =2D- Christoph M. Becker