Newsgroups: php.internals,php.internals.win Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108971 php.internals.win:1220 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11500 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2020 11:31:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 2020 11:31:59 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15CD1804A7; Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:53:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS8560 212.227.0.0/16 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Wed, 11 Mar 2020 02:53:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1583920386; bh=e3+YyT2yUVyDivxAJ8aNlb+0kBPQc1rV5unZUCW2QdU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=j2uJ6qobdhudDJcbJUyk7LBK/Goj+JAdFJSkDmbNE4LX6e3JM8BMeOfPNIzfudsJZ 6l08Ij5QDYnvIPrpNJ3MPzIaYCKdz6UCHMqqfwIBjxbzfoopjgERZSEhYShOKKH3bq pFpUk4TkkMKSdkS7OxuYSQKALQEso5HZZ/GvKze4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.2.130] ([84.179.232.93]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MjS5A-1jaYVE22FG-00kyCI; Wed, 11 Mar 2020 10:53:06 +0100 To: Anatol Belski , PHP internals , internals-win References: Message-ID: <75ac8eb7-f738-b678-7348-5076f48c1260@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 10:53:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:abxemiSkPCdwSb1JuVnNalgX+EmaODpm5+FdgAMes/ezUIlBWaL u84XsP36zb7/M66xYXi/fZeKbSRTnd9QZs0MIH+5/GnHIcUfFmPM9kIckUNirGUowx+cd/i fJzm8SD/3ViulOtPJDCKQL7phYzmN9LXgB8kTIDx6lcpqRD6GpLF/3Q97RXLayPaks+gfPL WgAwaVy5gSFiEroobFEIQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TDk/40awoDE=:FfjKLXzRgohN8lJWUpcUyG SViD3tdpXI7BHJQOy9GG6Fuyi/cQx46RGliLpKMslFQ+g4/0G1AjN3KplmpSon0sx4xkw9HJf z5F9MD/uPDyIypYdnA/+onSE8RPoZRvLHKAJBDoABys6Ncdjt74RWNE4A1Fr8uYW/UXeh5Suj GXDkdrRQB1gx2VEQp1EcqPEKgHPYmpLgyUnf53aytJEs0+OQ6CJK1ncFLnopR0UCzJ6xDRNMf XTnzfwt6cHdlyiB2CZq4vTqieIwTgYcEjLjjYa5ZKcYflNZC9dpp5wbtzcVUHt0opzIbVKX4n Ff0WCfODtrOfZF2CxFjdzV0r49gtKSmdxDUBRNpVHidfUWVbyKKQQzGhBzdqyo0Qr2TkYQW1c +iYVVL+QJVWkX+/2nJe+ygAqonkoCJ1upluPoP3z+StPKpBclRD0vXmGnBzmzp8aPKw2mv1Tg 6Av7b7z1npaMCyayr8hAEneNWNuJZqsAFFOjxY9KnM9mdqW8qD8MxGlJCBlC+lKeyY5FKocNY f9xttQFvr/Ujzv0VWV4Ocy4zn4nkkvhw3/poJYy7zZ+PHnag8eHYc8aDnjOfKmdVQqasH20YC 2Nmh/Ht3oeRhW1FhJWUfILFZcq1+yWT1ZbEOrKSBAs8yAqa9s8QgEzQdaETtXGvTs+q8EO1wC h3nYnhzaBalMKafHmPiNauBy9gXj753UDebug28LLG/uU19aocc8n6wTl9IosdsZMpuuAbvV8 mMVFJ7KxjTP9UpS++Ozi01ZZxTp3WR/67oUd3sIQqmCF4pren33yAiOYhKr2xWnh3nYhp4Ovs oP5QQSgN353ond/IgfzKCGFQRK24lawVWVlpOEl9UD0PqZW1ZpQvkpBAFPjMl3GHL7C99HRPd 9M8Hqfj6Pk6x41zttJ1awcFWeATRKzbXgC/7/wowydpElu4mv68SRhibBAAbTF3uzTaFkSVu3 1NY5qZx1WD7fvcVoBGoadaqRPthSEYW8JIh75Mzm9P45AJ1JaNdaED6otscC9S8UzHzMpIFqJ ULnyLeVtMAqoJ9RFxycnUk0wk24yq2g4GbQT5QK9tQCJfiXGTw6wAKOQdJl1AjX04dtO3w9sj Z2zDaHpZZy4htSDBtWLJAMCxdF0vMhCB/cwBMTFkbxjNFwZou0V5y337XplBJOUGABfckXfy0 b2ilfcIGzaMVDAi/BvZkJrqAUsDRIPTw38h3kNDjqR1g4qkna6/OANfqm6Q301O7MYmuEtLf3 kC/Eod2WXITgpFZTV Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Windows snapshot builds switching to debug From: cmbecker69@gmx.de ("Christoph M. Becker") On 10.03.2020 at 13:59, Anatol Belski wrote: > I'd see not much value in switching to debug builds for the snapshots. > Currently the snapshots are public and are built with PGO. This makes > it easy for users to test any provided revision. Debug builds are > better suitable for the runtime development, but they require a debug > runtime, can't use PGO and are in most case unusable for users. > > IMO, if debug builds of snapshots are needed for something, they might > be added, but release buids of snapshots should not be removed. It is > more important to ensure release builds, for debug they're also > suitable in 98% of cases as it always contains debug symbols. There are > many other points that would speak against switching to debug builds > only. For the developer needs, debug builds can always be done on > demand. Thanks Anatol! These are very valid points indeed. I think we shall re-consider. It would be helpful to know who actually uses the snapshot builds, and for which purpose. So any feedback on that would be welcome as well. Thanks, Christoph