Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108943 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47235 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2020 13:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2020 13:25:36 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2291804C6 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-yw1-f48.google.com (mail-yw1-f48.google.com [209.85.161.48]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f48.google.com with SMTP id p124so13299969ywc.8 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FTpc/D2YVkS6DySJd2jGj3oPRUFZDLhyZuxO4zMiwFE=; b=OjDM9vW0y0qWuuVoWtY8L1KLPttEr4TWSVgXRmE8kGHOnLx0FPLdprOr7NPzJS+Dbq zI3MF38SuW7FD2nv08YYDnZrujCSqH0v9ga2HSOAKoXDczcPThZwI1l2QxR5hI467E/O LGDNeEUCtSBFq/Zcsw2dooUjjKSvu0WPim4FUfxjhRH/6MEYC2/Vo+5NAY48CbHPNFc0 GyZkksZrcBwvGAfytnEJZF6sepqUtzSauuVfB4EPaa6cVJEqSGnB/CVOygRPPrPuISv+ MqLfBg/vJVICCzBrjatnP+YxAw0rO8NXS2sM9W9lVp+tjirHX2NmrUtTLN674sdCI7tT FV1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FTpc/D2YVkS6DySJd2jGj3oPRUFZDLhyZuxO4zMiwFE=; b=nncxbA8a4dcYNO1f6xN8TKAz4wuuzsqAuwL9JGn1Z3OVQU4vGLrxWg3o/XfMEvFoVE intr4cLn91A1fp+B0MdRx2s0MmQwiP6/ChA8u0a05olvitQSj87SAN63Thf9ABw9aaa7 j6iSsEFZZhU7w8Z+Nm8HabmHA6lK+KoDdIBj46ykV8JMsB0JYI3r8bfUlnM5DvwG6vsk g/zIWR5tD9Xo5iYeF8C2fOm0l6qCicIq2HXmDgFWfKu0cm33aJ4FScRgOLVlOoml2OBu kFom0IBBfzMUJmFvAlhj1/o1HAE+3VVLGa+sXTR+sUjDq3su71p+K6jUAl6E9mEkAZL+ BPoA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3As4cETGV1L7uqngxdewVN8RFTcVdELszHFuoxCngraZoPkqPr CYUEw8D8WmdCAcacSzfabyDINw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vspdgC5GdSfG/YOk/7GRQpappe4qW4+tRLD5kgZIKt6hpS0AfF5Z7nJ6OIkvL9zowOBQu9Mqw== X-Received: by 2002:a81:2f55:: with SMTP id v82mr22527059ywv.291.1583840790139; Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:c0:c680:5cc0:8dba:c229:7c5e:3d05? ([2601:c0:c680:5cc0:8dba:c229:7c5e:3d05]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i74sm8726821ywa.91.2020.03.10.04.46.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 07:46:28 -0400 Cc: PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3E1ABF22-ACB5-4952-AE11-F842D76F8B4C@newclarity.net> References: <2227A758-3035-4A43-974C-C4461A096DFB@newclarity.net> To: Rowan Tommins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Attributes v2 From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Rowan Tommins = wrote: > I think that applies to our case equally: any punctuation or keyword = is > just a separator between the main function declaration and the = specific > attribute being applied. Having to write "attribute Sealed" would be = like > having to write "visibility public"; as much as possible, we want = "Sealed" > to be the keyword, and the rest of the syntax to just be formatting. No, you are making a flawed comparison.=20 There are only three (3) visibility modifiers in PHP whereas there are = practically *infinite* potential attribute classes. -Mike=