Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108897 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1901 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2020 15:47:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2020 15:47:56 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F41804D3 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 07:08:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-vk1-f180.google.com (mail-vk1-f180.google.com [209.85.221.180]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id w4so1871462vkd.5 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2020 07:08:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=basereality-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=blyxprROCdAkNvu03344uE2p7OK1t+SB95KcvxC9kIU=; b=xXyIcFkFOcAqcMssKoORP0lGzx2dXxwIH6hVSzkkFgDyNJlJM9tFIEugzLcUafIo1p 24AquqJTCSWQsjgMgQd905toQJfpXTxd6GKEyaUjzraCi4nUrmKgUFNBm0sR756FPf6G 33pxQ10gbXCILKNTLclJoUIMImoC4RX6uN6la5gnlttljGuMe/sDZ4guoFRUcoVg48b2 Cyz2kBHGV52h7C5QZGjMNTAfs9oKg3krUp5QiJ9Fh9YgomeoDFnzHsQpu4peaYjewmgc ndzDXlui8NZ3yb33RfUUc5uSkSwJgm92shv0V6+ctKwwQZVDA5zHnf6XSBxqORC+kjTf uJow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=blyxprROCdAkNvu03344uE2p7OK1t+SB95KcvxC9kIU=; b=cM3o8Yxm33Cl6zu1vlYxJH4QeW8HO7qXLESfeCkBXdrNSqcbJlnpaENv+niK0QoIYf f48m9aPjYbg1mRQCZFUp6t1AqUp7hXS4zlulfnZZoa0hsqHY+l3+0PC8KN9VSJxbkwSB icIT3E8g36TVo+dJcNsvTcs7hpXQeZYi9OoCBbP1WaXMjSXRnbn+bOumI7B9ILSC/xla op22Y0wPfYfz2gQPCz36RRAlD0+NFhkhU/wq8REltqsdejLebLZpkKrHkTduVuFwITTc x2DpHL6I3AJzzNymqdqAd/v6+pbx6oTR1GZvJEq5B9Oazrt5PYTm9FZJWFMBF5nkNmBG NrQQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3WR9Q7SNtGCuIFoDX+dbTE5Og0VOrqJ7zdlsDpRWHPZ5xSZwBq aX1H7h9oJZJ9qxKtkGRPBFGP603tyyuDWysxZhgwOQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vugYQKpo1kg+upYutYbroDKTvfUTpWVaJ8Zath0fAn56ACo1VSLy9V58YH9p+mjs+4XZJfJ+aMR/MGL5LLEnKo= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:abc7:: with SMTP id u190mr6343309vke.65.1583676495296; Sun, 08 Mar 2020 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <09dd1b84-ed33-a059-82f9-5efd179e69d6@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <09dd1b84-ed33-a059-82f9-5efd179e69d6@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 14:08:04 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Christoph M. Becker" Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] iconv vs. mbstring From: Danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 22:17, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > > for more > general string functionality, it would be ext/mbstring. > > Thoughts? > Related to this discussion, please could someone remind me why the mbstring extension is an extension and not part of core PHP? I realise at the time it was introduced, UTF-8 was far less widely used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8#/media/File:Utf8webgrowth.svg But now UTF-8 is pretty much the default for the vast majority of projects, so does that decision to keep it as an optional extension still hold up? cheers Dan Ack