Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108745 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12961 invoked from network); 24 Feb 2020 23:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2020 23:11:12 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1877180211 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from mail-qt1-f172.google.com (mail-qt1-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qt1-f172.google.com with SMTP id t13so7612411qto.3 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:28:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=newclarity-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=m9dVJVlGsI4UEhJvEz3vRpQCcXM0YR3dScg+86rfOm8=; b=opOyf9vps5kDEPuaAz+WLVhExmTrH350Da9XBHemf2JQaJWHKVWHGNzlMtjMil1ITq L+EzjxxR3dlvCA6gDzgyxbSKkmh7juxi4IgKNtEVKGvLDG46sE1jA8R3aQPUTdnzjeZj W9if99G14yajkFbJABc8en9iAxHcwOjih8g8dAKiZzHBgwB+fUE9I97pJpzABBuxa31T iQYJlcEGwX+NI+VFx2M7rJtqIctSAduv3ZJ5DNtOaI2p7wKXFXxLX8i2zDMwsMWw6Rgr 14ZFHXgiDiAf4NFkHKCxK2QyXE556Z6u9skBAy3/o9mMr4Swigaq//uRl9dN9GuoZSf9 Q4AQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=m9dVJVlGsI4UEhJvEz3vRpQCcXM0YR3dScg+86rfOm8=; b=ePXVZKnVE37wQQHic/5x3MOTh/tVnL/FeTkZ8JRj84TSLZUeOHNoiAouxskJ+otE+s 6VPcDbu+CLX6I3foadKRuxhvYsQlH0KKy802ejQj7IJ4AgW3gaBHvJFiF3B08RdPPqB7 kFLWbBl11ujibrKbUvEfuueG9LWVBYUnUk6DSy2rfHSzwwDENnTBhraYeI1cubqfgk0W 9hMKqV+SRaANwPZVfhPn9Ll3fSRoPfS/Z83/ivC7jtG+D/8U6Z8KXDqa2bn0FPQAzArM 0we3qUiJqnfolANCjSA8Pm60SuzR+fw9ZIo97HQEBJ7Tfmc/cH3+vmBewWb2LY+gOgrD SumQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUT+pYahBEkfH5PcAFlFtlEA6zf7hZbSdUlc596DNpVdTtdhj/d oZW2XeM4YogS70Mnij88/n5FuA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxYY2l1BBvZ5cPgrSY0+z42lfjBwgDAN6JWgniCLa3uACwWtgN3sOqCwXRIspbrcG5ybPKoww== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:65da:: with SMTP id t26mr50324791qto.5.1582579706967; Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:28:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (c-24-131-44-78.hsd1.ga.comcast.net. [24.131.44.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x23sm3030582qki.124.2020.02.24.13.28.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Feb 2020 13:28:24 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:28:23 -0500 Cc: php internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <61C5C119-CA43-4C7C-B25D-77C6E76BBC9B@newclarity.net> References: <8545d15e-ddd5-42be-8405-09697a077234@www.fastmail.com> <4d9688fe-cc57-44af-903e-05f4cbb1bbcc@www.fastmail.com> To: Rowan Tommins X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [DISCUSSION] Immutable/final/readonly properties From: mike@newclarity.net (Mike Schinkel) > On Feb 24, 2020, at 8:55 AM, Rowan Tommins = wrote: >=20 > As with typed properties, I wonder if there's a way we can = introduce.... Now you are talking! This gives me hope after my dejected last comment = on the list. -Mike