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<96314450-2508-8328-34cb-b2eb989ae337@heigl.org> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 13:03:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yUYMb4bJk7bx2nbRrL2Kb5BNNeqlc1S3k" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hos109.unaxus.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - heigl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hos109.unaxus.net: authenticated_id: a.heigl@heigl.org X-Authenticated-Sender: hos109.unaxus.net: a.heigl@heigl.org Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Make var_dump() use serialize_precision From: andreas@heigl.org (Andreas Heigl) --yUYMb4bJk7bx2nbRrL2Kb5BNNeqlc1S3k Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Ub2bE37IAilZODcSkWmt2KRggPkpvhyUk" --Ub2bE37IAilZODcSkWmt2KRggPkpvhyUk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 18.02.20 um 12:20 schrieb Nikita Popov: > Hi internals, >=20 > https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5172 changes var_dump() to use > serialize_precision instead of precision to dump floating-point numbers= =2E >=20 > To recap: serialize_precision defaults to -1, which will print exactly = as > many floating-point digits as are needed to represent the number > accurately. precision defaults to 14, which will print a shorter but > potentially inaccurate float representation. >=20 > The motivation here is that var_dump() is debugging functionality and > should print values as accurately as possible. The single most common b= ug > report we receive is some kind of variation on: >=20 > $sum =3D 0.1 + 0.2; > var_dump($sum); // float(0.3) > var_dump($sum =3D=3D 0.3); // bool(false) WTF??? >=20 > After this change, this would instead be: >=20 > $sum =3D 0.1 + 0.2; > var_dump($sum); // float(0.30000000000000004) > var_dump($sum =3D=3D 0.3); // bool(false) Makes sense... >=20 > I have little hope that developers will suddenly start understanding > floating-point numbers, but at least this should reduce the amount of > confusion. >=20 > Does anyone see an issue with doing this change? You mean apart from people now filing bugs how var_dump() can output such a nonsensical number from such an easy equation? And that it again shows that PHP is not a real programming language (unlike JavaScript) and should never be used at all? Nope ;-) Cheers Andreas PS: I'd absolutely appreciate the change!!! --=20 ,,, (o o) +---------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-+ | Andreas Heigl | | mailto:andreas@heigl.org N 50=C2=B022'59.5" E 08=C2=B0= 23'58" | | http://andreas.heigl.org http://hei.gl/wiFKy7 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | http://hei.gl/root-ca | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ --Ub2bE37IAilZODcSkWmt2KRggPkpvhyUk-- --yUYMb4bJk7bx2nbRrL2Kb5BNNeqlc1S3k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEOHo7et0VdZk8RJK34Ff+SCK3tkUFAl5L0qwACgkQ4Ff+SCK3 tkV/Yg/+LM4l3zV38XFpEnQgqvh3inbDfStWrrNGU/duk5t1lfMuWQo4Fbo5EWmw d14AhqI05EqlMq/Jr8e1N8lOLo+V5BBQr7TTJNlSYLXRVOan2x2z2rWUUhD+sl2U L63Xikr4dNMLI+Zbecu6jmP6wkY/ZECIAm8O3WQYW3G2Agrtzw/IET+YmibQD7eu L6HJFhDmsZZ7U3ogG/WzN18hHWvA+QcMX8SrYuKkbuWTDluYcluZLH21ZoAKKWms o862SqJM3trEMtBZUVu+89KOCt5jC8RpBrTlTPy6/whKFTKO42Q5nZgQ5fhYlWbv o6y5X84j8q9Q/YbTak80EG+e7ork08W+T5LX1ENUCMQBZdzwNmLwGpb/8tXZWDMA 5pHdRqSFYVG4xDK1ZNr+eDWdOZWc8/ZEvSaSkST6SWthSFCcU4H7kdbU/H+2L/tZ LBk3pHN9tVQTw93Cng4IyLbCc3WpRJR/MjweLBVY64SsGOIfS5B9DQpv2B/4nOiy f2T3qirpBc/ACf/Sj7Y4zlL7yCHL72XwMo5POLeK89PpGnHI8gOgapF4hGKKnPuu YEewsmIlLfAQAHt+p0e67kZ/MOfFGMyg9m3jMItI3+R4xZW2gN3iTyy8CXrk2o9m 21MWCT31TFii90oLWs41GZrJyGWvOOThYeZi5wphxkiU3twdQBM= =FZf3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yUYMb4bJk7bx2nbRrL2Kb5BNNeqlc1S3k--