Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108637 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39752 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2020 10:12:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2020 10:12:09 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C4F180210 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 00:27:30 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS1836 195.49.0.0/17 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from darkcity.gna.ch (darkcity.gna.ch [195.49.47.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 00:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from flatter.home (unknown [IPv6:2a02:120b:2c4e:2460:91c2:9d4b:a3ab:ade2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by darkcity.gna.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D60426C151F; Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:27:27 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 09:27:26 +0100 Cc: php internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <81D451EA-B38A-4855-B624-0E587C66FB9C@cschneid.com> References: <16481aca-93f4-43f5-5ec2-413d19ade318@gmail.com> To: Mark Randall X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Allow null variables to be decremented From: cschneid@cschneid.com (Christian Schneider) Am 15.02.2020 um 19:21 schrieb Mark Randall : > That incrementing a null works at all is a painful part of the = language spec that I would argue needs flushing down the toilet, rather = than further reinforcing. Just for the record: There is no agreement on that. And while a lot of people on internals are pushing for a stricter = language please don't forget that it is not the only view around. - Chris