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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:11:50 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] A Hacker's Guide - Obsolete
From: daniel.spiridione@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_Mart=C3=ADn_Spiridione?=)

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I agree on this you mention. Obviously this is not the only and exclusive
reason why Python is widely used for data science, nor is it something that
interests me. I simply mention that if I or someone else wanted to generate
an extension like NumPy, for example, for more knowledge I have of C I
don't have an official document to understand the PHP core.

I do not promote the generation of extensions, but if necessary the
official documentation does not help, even confuses.

Regards

El jue., 23 ene. 2020 a las 9:21, G. P. B. (<george.banyard@gmail.com>)
escribi=C3=B3:

> On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 13:07, Daniel Mart=C3=ADn Spiridione <
> daniel.spiridione@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi interns. The official PHP.net documentation of the "PHP at the Core: =
A
>> Hacker's Guide" section (https://www.php.net/manual/en/internals2.php) i=
s
>> obsolete.
>>
>> In that sense Python has good documentation to be extended in C / C ++. =
I
>> think this is also one of the reasons why there are libraries like NumPy
>> and others that have popularized Python for data science.
>>
>> I personally know that the project http://www.phpinternalsbook.com
>> exists.
>> While this book is not yet fully updated to PHP 7, the information it
>> provides is wonderful!
>>
>> I think the "A Hacker's Guide" documentation should clarify that it is
>> outdated and incomplete and at least reference the project
>> http://www.phpinternalsbook.com
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>
> This is a known issue, and just reading a tiny bit of the guide you'll
> realise
> it is outdated as it mentions all over the place the original Zend engine
> or
> the Zend 2 engine.
>
> As said by the Doc Editor once (can't find the email again) it would be
> great to have it updated but the people having the skill to write tech
> documentation and the people who know the engine is really small.
>
> Adding a mention may seem worthwhile but meh.
>
> Now as to why Python is more used in data science and co, I'll chime
> in my personal opinion but I think it's mostly the case as Python syntax
> resemble MATLAB. Moreover, PHP has always "promoted" it self for Web
> Dev and not that much as a general purpose programming language.
>
> Just my two cents
>
> Best regards
>
> George P. Banyard
>

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