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From: tysonandre775@hotmail.com (tyson andre) > Wow. From a participation standpoint that seems pretty pathetic. If 30 is= the average that means most people never vote.=A0=0A= >=0A= > I would have assumed that having a vote would mean that people would be e= xpected to vote periodically or if not then loose the privilege.=A0=0A= =0A= How many of the 1900 are aware that they're eligible to vote? (a few hundre= d? could probably count the unique voters)=0A= Discussions mentioning details of the RFC voting eligibility itself (e.g. t= his thread) are probably rare,=0A= and limited to subscribers that actively read mailing lists (or see links f= rom external posts).=0A= I wasn't aware that I was able to use many of the internal tools until a fe= w months ago,=0A= or that I was an eligible voter until I read up on the RFC process.=0A= (I assumed there was a small core group of voters)=0A= =0A= When my php.net account was created,=0A= I don't remember seeing notifications/emails about what you're eligible to = do,=0A= just the fact it was created. (It's been a while, I can't find the first em= ail)=0A= =0A= There are probably ways to increase awareness - I have no idea what the cur= rent state of this is.=0A= - One-time notifications about this and other information on contributing w= hen logging into pecl, bugs.php.net, the wiki, or other subdomains=0A= (e.g. "Did you know?" dialog boxes)=0A= - Links to the same thing included in emails when creating new accounts=