Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:108157 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69667 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2020 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO php-smtp4.php.net) (45.112.84.5) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2020 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from php-smtp4.php.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E40B180561 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:30:11 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on php-smtp4.php.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-ASN: AS11403 66.111.4.0/24 X-Spam-Virus: No X-Envelope-From: Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com (out5-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by php-smtp4.php.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB91E221FD for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap26 ([10.202.2.76]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:30:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=4OnGU6Joq3K4754NqMDUGMR6/obO+Y+FF9QJ9ltZk qs=; b=A6qNpCWm6zpL9oNcce3qptB5vdIML1vw8QvlJX0h0ywSB8efljRsC3Y7+ kmnf/FQdVop/G11fC8RlaTwepv4YmcUYtH55ovHHGXayDAZjAZZ/4Ldu3BDmckGV nIAJpDtV2QS4vywzjSPKT3DS3CBm0w0UyAhCMLlew8/G1+4VaoEGaSzBVO24itvP Fx/w0y80uXxidyIqT7vFO0VsWFPQ7cEJSgvVr/lF/c8Y48lhVWPgHcZcfHpwaDn7 p1AZB5JlIMHbZWR4aQtuyhQDKRO4IbxonEGaQBtpsvWpBaU07HxYByOm/bLTv/Vl Wg5y+sEBY+xsf3qnBCTPnJIItao1A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrtdefgddufeeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgfgsehtqhertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfnfgr rhhrhicuifgrrhhfihgvlhgufdcuoehlrghrrhihsehgrghrfhhivghlughtvggthhdrtg homheqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehphhhprdhnvghtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhm pehlrghrrhihsehgrghrfhhivghlughtvggthhdrtghomhenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiii gvpedt X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8079214200A2; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:30:09 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-754-g09d1619-fmstable-20200113v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <41431edf-4e28-4f1a-8185-7fc21ded077f@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <008CDD73-A01E-4204-AE03-F6EC9933CA5A@benramsey.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:29:48 -0600 To: "php internals" Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters? From: larry@garfieldtech.com ("Larry Garfield") On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Ben Ramsey wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2020, at 14:02, Paul M. Jones wrote:= > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >> On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey wrote: > >>=20 > >> Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is= here: https://people.php.net/ > >=20 > > I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, = the rules are: > >=20 > >> =E2=80=A2 People with php.net VCS accounts that have contributed co= de to PHP > >> =E2=80=A2 Representatives from the PHP community, that will be chos= en by those with php.net VCS accounts > >> =E2=80=A2 Lead developers of PHP based projects (frameworks, cms, = tools, etc.) > >> =E2=80=A2 regular participant of internals discussions > >=20 > > It's clear that the second point has not really taken hold, but the = first point adds the caveat "that have contributed code to PHP", and tha= t part *does* seem widely accepted. > >=20 > > So unless I am wrong, merely having a php.net account doesn't appear= sufficient -- code or docs contributions are an additional prerequisite= to getting a vote. > >=20 > > Ben (and others) -- your thoughts? Is it really as straightforward a= s "having a php.net account alone is enough to be eligible to vote=E2=80= =9D ? >=20 >=20 > I wasn=E2=80=99t answering based on the rules. My answer is based on p= ractice.=20 > AFAIK, everyone with a php.net account also has access to the wiki (yo= u=20 > log into the wiki using your php.net account), and therefore, also has= =20 > the ability to vote on RFCs. >=20 > Maybe there are some who have access to the wiki without a php.net=20 > account, and maybe there are some who can access the wiki who can=E2=80= =99t=20 > vote. Whomever has admin access on the wiki can provide more=20 > information. >=20 > -Ben >=20 > Attachments: > * signature.asc FTR, I have Wiki access (I was able to write a pre-RFC) but I have no vo= ting access. Whatever the mechanism is, there is a separate setting. --Larry Garfield