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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Who are the current eligible voters?
From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov)

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On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:03 PM Paul M. Jones <pmjones@pmjones.io> wrote:

>
>
> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 13:21, Ben Ramsey <ben@benramsey.com> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone with a php.net account is able to vote. The public list is
> here: https://people.php.net/
>
> I don't think that's *quite* the case? As has been noted elsewhere, the
> rules are:
>
> > =E2=80=A2 People with php.net VCS accounts that have contributed code t=
o PHP
> > =E2=80=A2 Representatives from the PHP community, that will be chosen b=
y those
> with php.net VCS accounts
> >       =E2=80=A2 Lead developers of PHP based projects (frameworks, cms,=
 tools,
> etc.)
> >       =E2=80=A2 regular participant of internals discussions
>
> It's clear that the second point has not really taken hold, but the first
> point adds the caveat "that have contributed code to PHP", and that part
> *does* seem widely accepted.
>
> So unless I am wrong, merely having a php.net account doesn't appear
> sufficient -- code or docs contributions are an additional prerequisite t=
o
> getting a vote.
>
> Ben (and others) -- your thoughts? Is it really as straightforward as
> "having a php.net account alone is enough to be eligible to vote" ?
>

Yes, having a php.net account is sufficient. Additionally there are 28
users in the wiki in the "phpcvs" group, which I *think* means they can
also vote.

Based on master.php.net data, the number of people who are eligible for
voting is approximately 1900. The usual turnout for RFC votes is more like
30. If it's something very controversial, maybe 100.

People aren't kidding when they say it's easy to get an RFC vote -- but in
reality, there's simply very little interest ;)

Regards,
Nikita

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